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hm, you know, i don't think i'll make a huge deal out of it because i'm not really that good at this game anyway, but i do think lilligant deserves to move back up. i've had a lot of success with quiver dance + petal dance and i think if you take out things with double resistances to her she can...

hm, this sounds good, but let's see who can threaten it. bouffalant- megahorn destroys both and sap sipper gets rid of lilligant's serious power. this could be a problem. it is slow, though, so sneasel could get at least one attack in, but that's about it. fire types will be the main problem...

uh, not really... +1 252+ SpA Miracle Seed Lilligant Petal Dance vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Ninetales: 172-203 (59.7 - 70.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock +1 252+ SpA Lilligant Hidden Power Rock vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Ninetales: 192-228 (66.6 - 79.1%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock vs. 252...

i feel like a lot of guys are gonna get moved up to NU next month. avalugg's defense and attack are way too high for this tier, lilligant's petal dance + quiver dance combo can wipe out entire teams that don't have sap sipper with only a turn or two of setup, female meowstic has competitive...

accelgor does not blow, its defenses are terrible but it's fast and has strong special attacking prowess and good coverage moves and it's a very effective azelf check that i've taken down many pokemon with so... and i get what you mean, although in my experience azelf has still been pretty easy...

well i actually wasn't really trying to argue either way, i was just trying to give people an easy to use reference for when they're arguing their points, but i didn't think about how people would use different strategies, so sorry for that i personally don't think azelf is broken enough to be...

actually, let me look into the stats of the RU pokemon on the first page that are faster/can survive an attack from azelf. i'll skip the ones that aren't attackers or can get easily KO'd (unless they outspeed/speed tie it). keep in mind that this is all against an attacking azelf set with maxed...

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ah ok, well i actually did know that i was just wondering what the "official" classification is now of the pokemon not on that list, but i guess it doesn't matter because i can use them in RU as long as they're not on the banlist anyway. thanks! and cool to know i can still use accelgor and...

i'm sorry i'm kinda new to how the tiers are structured, if the pokemon isn't on the usage list (basically below rotom-mow in usage) on the first page is it NU now?

i don't think BP is nearly broken enough to be banned. i feel like you have to screw up at least a couple of times to have a BP team easily sweep you, and while everyone does screw up and there's nothing wrong with that, i don't think things should be banned if it's mostly the individual...