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Is it really sufficient from the point of view of Smogon standards if you have to bring what sounds like, and also from experience in practice, some specific strat(s)? I'd say we know there exists counterplay. Whether or not it's sufficient, from the games I've played so far, is looking highly...

Make 1v1 1v1 Again

Hi everyone! For those who don't know me, I've been involved in this format and its establishment since gen6. Currently back for a brief moment as it looks right now. I noticed that the gen 6 (Link: ) and gen 7 (Link:) discussion threads aren't referenced in the OP anymore, which I think should...

Because by being doubles it's different enough to arguably provide more variety than another 1v1 slot could. Fair enough, though what I was talking about was about 2v2 Doubles being more established, with tours on PS! since 2015, multiple OM of the month ladders, and significantly more ladder...

The SM point: Because there already is 2 SM slots, and if 2v2 would be included there would be more variety. The DPP being tournament tested point: 2v2 Doubles is also tournament tested, while being more popular. The mains not signing up point: I understand that the tour would benefit from more...

How is it constant begging or even begging at all if I replied to the meta's leader saying that it shouldn't even be considered, when the points I had previously brought up still provide a base for consideration?

2v2 Doubles should very much be considered for 8, as the reasons I posted earlier apply to 8 slots. Even 4 SS could be reduced, especially considering the unpopularity of SS.

I request that 2v2 Doubles is put in as a format on the base that It's the 1v1 of doubles It's more popular than DPP and ADV 1v1 It's been a format in 1v1 tournaments before It needs the exposure It's a nice variety / spicing things up It brings in new people You can use 1v1 teams and succeed

Real 1v1 Welcome to the real and original 1v1 metagame, not the 3v3 you're probably used to! 1v1 used to be 1v1 on Pokémon Showdown until it was changed to 3v3 on 2014.07.01, now it's back! This metagame is best played on a ladder. For background to this metagame it's best to just read this...

The point was that the pokes that get the ability aren't the most viable in the metagame. The biggest reason they're used is for that ability and not much else, which is an indicator of unhealthiness / overcentralization. Not to mention it was 1 example. Another example would be how there's a...

Good thing I got some unexpected time today, so we got to play. Won in 2 games, GG Ninjadog13! We're both out so might as well post the replays now: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen72v2doubles-817664507 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen72v2doubles-817666181

No one implied that. An edge means what it means, a slight to moderate advantage. Is it really overcentralizing though? I can't speak for others, but Lando-T is way less of a priority in teambuilding for me than weather. For example, weather has such an impact that ppl are using Cloud Nine...

2v2 Doubles is Other Metagame of this month (!!!), and that has given me a chance to further my experience with weather, allowing me to further confirm whether weather is a true problem. And I am pretty confident right now that weather is a problem that needs to be dealt with. As previously...

Interesting timing. As The Immortal said, the rule was created to prevent influence in the voting thread itself, aka when you're looking through the thread and maybe haven't fully decided yet, or when you were going to vote for something and read some message that might change your mind . The...

2v2 Doubles

Smogon Doubles (OU) is hosting a Partners in Crime minitour if anyone's interested.

Player Name: Rumplestiltskin Eligibility: NE Foreseen Inactivity: Prob a lot. Format played: 2v2 Doubles

I know the type chart. I get that there's difference between the types, but that difference by itself isn't enough. Poisinium and Darkinium would be "less powerful" because they hit fewer of the most used pokes effectively, but they still do what the arguments against them are bringing up in...

Except the most major part about Z-moves that has been debated is when they are used with attacks, and that effect doesn't differ from move to move. It's a base power boost, which also removes any negative effects, conditions, and bypasses accuracy. Edit: And also goes through Protect, etc..