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Hello! I would like to offer another effective TR abuser option to the beautifully compiled TR post. Hariyama @ Flame Orb Ability: Guts EVs: 252 Atk / 108 Def / 148 SpD Brave Nature - Close Combat - Knock Off - Bullet Punch - Heavy Slam / Ice Punch / Stone Edge Hariyama faces stiff...

Thanks a lot for clarifying! It's such a shame because it really does take skill completely out of certain situations making the game less competitive but if your hands are tied for now then that's that. Thanks for the input! I was in no way arguing that Machoke was ban-worthy in terms of how...

That may or may not be the case but I wanted to open the discussion because it definitely won't get banned if no one talks about it. And from reading previous threads I know a number of people feel the same way as I do - including yourself going by what you say in your last sentence.

There seems to be some confusion about my post about D-Punch (see what I did there?). I'm not saying don't run D-Punch, I'm saying ban D-Punch then use Cross Chop if you feel the compulsion to run No Guard [:

So now that Pelipper has gone we're undoubtedly going to see tons of Machoke running around and I wanted to know where we stand on Dynamicpunch. It allows players of lower skill to beat players of higher skill on the flip of a coin. If players want to run a No Guard set with a high base power...

Vigoroth: Ban Exeggutor: Ban

Confirming as foofoo

Very solid [: no complaints about the team, just Knock Off on Marowak is invaluable for Tangela and Gourgeist and I would run it over Stone Edge as Bonemerang is pretty sweet too and you very rarely miss the rock coverage. Everything dies anyway [: Also Haunter does not get Focus Blast but in...