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The easiest thing to do is copy someone good's team verbatim. Obtain the permission, of course... It's BY FAR the most effective way to start if you are new to this. Then you can build your own teams later...

This kind of game is a basic variant of the 'mind-reader rock paper scissors,' dicussed in game theory. The general approach is to just use luck as much as possible. The obvious choice is OHKO moves, but if those are banned, the best choices seem to be things like sniper kingdra, stuff that hits...

People know me a bit on shoddy for my Gengar lead.

Nope, I'm not assuming that. I'm looking specifically at the times when Garchomp would get OHKO'd by the ice move, which is a subset of the total possibilites which you are referring to. This is why I mentioned the sub garchomp as just part of normal 'hax' which happens in every game. Point...

Nope. Every good stall team I play on shoddy has a good ghost to stop the spinner cold.

Some of you don't seem to understand that Sand Veil isn't something that needs to be 'countered,' since 80% of the time that Garchomp dies. The substitute variant getting the miss isn't too big of a deal, since it won't have a scarf and therefore probably won't sweep. In this case, it's about...

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