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Yeah i really should have been clearer. I wasn't saying Tomb is a good counter to swellow, infact i was saying the exact opposite; its set up bait. Tomb seems to suck swellow to him. Psychic can be a good way to hit him on switch which shadow sneak/sucker punch/pursuit all can't. Or it can hit...

Also it will let Spiritomb harm Swellow. Its not the biggest concern but it has always been a thorn in my side when using Spiritomb with Shadow Sneak over Sucker Punch. Not my durability in this Spiritomb which is fine if you just want to trap.

To be fair this is the most excited i have been in quite a while. When the metagame gets totally shaken up like this we, the team builders, earn our stripes. New niche pokemon and sets become viable and you have a chance to be creative. While i agree with the people who have said that it may...

Heracross is eating her. And then its going to eat me... Oh My Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawd!

Truth. That said Im fairly happy with the list atm. Small possible changes; Drifblim up to D perhaps Nidoqueen down to D Dugtrio up one

One major problem for me; Rain. Milotic might be able to do a little with some prediction. I will hold back on recommendations as i think you know all the ways there are of dealing with rain (Makin it Rain thread). It is just whether or not you want to integrate one or let your team have that...

Yeah, blaziken is a close call for sure. The speed is an issue, its usage has fallen recently too (not that it means much in itself). I did it relatively. I think it is more on a par with scyther then with arcanine, mismagius and swellow.

That is not even a check! However, SD/CC/Megahorn/Facade may not be the set of choice (pun intended)

Doesnt work. Synchronise only works when the opponent uses status on you. Shoddy does let Umbreon get heal bell.

also not surprised to hear it. Heracross makes even the most conservative minds think about theorymon banning.

if hera came down, weezing would be the only thing with a chance of saving UU. max att jolly hera life orb vs max/max bold weezing, stone edge 26.3% - 31.1% obviously dangerous with SD. but with guts activated i think (smogon calculator doesnt work with guts?) there is a chance of a 2HKO with...

I really hope Tentacruel comes back down, i think he will fit in well; he will provide milotic with some much needed competition.

Possible Additions: Rotom- B Nidoqueen- C (maybe D) Toxicroak- B Lanturn- B Potential Movements Mesprit up to C Ambipom up to A Blaziken down to B

When he is in he doesnt take the residual damage from the weather, Rock types lose their defense boost. No snow cloak/sand veil. Walrein is more manageable. So it is handy but.. Its not as good in sand/hail because the sand/hail has more subtle effects. Rain/sun just increase speed and sweep...

this. plus if it looks like its going to sweep, alot of ppl wouldnt mind sacking someone to get poison on it. how about rest over yawn and chesto berry?

His points were that; -voting is more important that nominating (this was in reply to a point Lemmi made) -on the voting, in the past Moltres has proved to be far closer to BL -Furthermore, in the future Raikou isnt likely to get voted to be BL. Moltres, on the other hand, could already be BL...

No recovery! Nuff said really. weak to toxic, will be taken down by the repeated attacks that it will be attracting, residual damage etc. will get some surprise kills.

We are not talking about Milotic or Tangrowth here. Golduck and Gardevoir can reliably take out most rain sweepers (Gardevoir needs to beware Kabutops aqua jet). The issue is that if you are not facing rain they could be a wasted team slot (or at least a team slot that you could have used a lot...

And i agree with you on the issue of a seperate tier for those two suspects. Actually i agree with near everything in the post. Consider the points seconded. EDIT: well PK beat me to the post, thanks PK for the work you are putting in, this would be very frustrating if you wernt as active

I shall repeat my view that there are pokes more deserving of S rank than Missy. I suggested Registeel but with the current wave of goodwill towards him, i am willing to back Rhyperior. Also when i look at the B rank, Ambipom jumps out as being out of place there. The problem is there isnt much...