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you could always run toxic over wow on spiritomb, but otherwise sds has a good point. however, the point really is to pp stall blaziken out of fire blast with pressure.

if i'm not mistaken, most mamoswine run jolly in order to outrun adamant lucario. the attack drop isn't great, but if you're that concerned about outrunning mamo i think jolly is fine, it could have some surprise factor.

welcome to smogon christen, i'm not a rain dance expert but i have experimented a little so i'll give you what i can. adman had the right idea about adding qwilfish, although zong is arguably one of the sturdier set-uppers of rd. the problem with your original team was that you were lacking rd...

sweet deal. g/s were my favorite games 'cause you could go back and fight all the original gym leaders, as well as travel between both lands. remember jasmine's cameo in d/p? she's the steel gym leader that's standing on the shore in...uh sunyshore city. of course just because she appeared in...

remember that if you sacrifice jolly for adamant you can be outrun by threats such as +speed rotom, gyarados, and mamoswine

thanks for the info. as a relatively inexperienced player i have a lot of trouble with stall, so i'm trying to build a team taking into account the various suggestions in the thread. question (a la dwight from the office): is ttar a good choice on an offensive team? if i were to have sd ape...

since i am a new battler, unfortunately i don't think i have too much to add to the discussion (huge thanks to everyone who contributed their thoughts!), but i would like to ask a question: what is the best anti-stall lead? i'm just gonna guess that hippo is the most commonly used stall lead...

i'm likin the discussion here...as a new player, stall seems really appealing, because it's a lot safer and eases prediction compared to a fast-paced offensive team, where one wrong move and an important poke is iced. but i find stall to be super boring...all you're doing is just setting down...

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i know what you mean about venomoth. needless to say, in addition to the omnipresent shaymin and milotic, add yanmega to the mix. and yeah, i wouldn't be surprised if more pokes started running quick attack, since yanmega has a 4x resist to mach punch the key will definitely be keeping rocks on...

the question is, is brave bird a ohko? swellow naturally outspeeds yanmega on turn one, so if it has focus sash swellow could finish it on turn two with quick attack. if yanmega protects on turn one, you could switch to a counter on the next turn. i'm not exactly sure what would happen, and...

focus blast is a very useful thing on scarfgar, but the shaky accuracy has screwed me over more than once. i'm not saying don't use it, but i wouldn't call it a 100% reliable counter to anything. 70% accuracy blows. if you're using scarfgar primarily as a revenge killer, i'd say get rid of...

i agree with gargantor that rapid spin isn't really required on your team. stealth rock is still a great thing to have, and you can place that on a sturdy support wall like registeel or regirock. if you still want to use bastiodon try using metal burst for a surprise ko, but other than that...

going back to the yanmega discussion for a sec, would a lead swellow be able to beat it?

yeah p2 is a pretty common sight these days, being a pretty reliable counter to the oversaturated gyarados in ou, and can work as a mence counter in a pinch as well. and i am surprised by inclusion of electivire, barely see his ugly mug ever same with donphan

cool! yanmega is a pretty good pokeyman. it'll be fun tearing shit up in uu also, question. if a poke isnt on either list, what does that mean? for example: hitmonchan, regice

great points regarding dual-screen support for set-up teams vs. offensive leads with wallbreakers. basically, it really depends on what your team needs. i really do think any offensive team benefits greatly from stealth rock since they tend to force a lot of switches. as for the celebi hate, i...

thanks for the advice and the warm welcome! i feel like i'm welcoming a celebrity, since it was your original rain dance article that got me started in the first place. *tears in eyes* well, anyway. kabutops. i replaced aerial ace with x-scissor, and took out swords dance for aqua jet. and...

Niiice. Thanks for the comments guys. Perish Song sounds like it could be fun... And as for Grass Knot vs. Energy Ball, I hate Azumarill and Lanturn is annoying. So maybe I'll just keep it for now and see what happens.

Thanks for the comments! I'll try Psychic for now since I already have Toxic on Altaria. And I completely forgot what a huge threat Slowbro was, thanks for reminding me. And X-Scissor will still hit bulky grassers like Tangrowth and Meganium hard, although it'll only be a neutral hit on Venusaur...