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Pretty much EVERY Skymin "counter" has that "but Air Slash hax!" clause attached, unless they go Scarf and outspeed it, but then Scarf Skymin is still annoying the crap out of them if anyone feels like using it. Being able to switch in and ONLY have to deal with flinch hax instead of switching...

And they're absolutely useless for everything else. One of the most common (and in my estimation, legitimate) arguments for how to define when something is broken is when it is such a problem that you have to run a 100% useless set that will never, ever be of much use in any other way solely to...

And this is the problem with the strategy. I think a good standard for what is broken is "the opponent cannot reasonably counter it without some sort of absurdity", with the "absurdities" meaning stuff like sets that are worthless for everything but countering the one set and extreme luck. The...

On the subject of Inconsistent, the "but we haven't banned abilities before!" argument is incredibly flawed and kind of arrogant, because it assumes the "we" in question are perfect AND clairvoyant. Doing something one way at some point does NOT logically mean you MUST do it that way forever. If...

I believe he is nitpicking the wording, which goes "Machamp lacks a lack of STAB priority", as in "Machamp does not have a lack of STAB priority" which means "Machamp has STAB priority", which is obviously incorrect.

Awesome, always nice to see the hard work people put into this stuff paying off. Thanks for the effort everyone involved, can't wait to see how it works.

A LOT of types have gotten new toys. Dragon really isn't all that impressive in terms of new toys; compared to water getting Swimming Goggles for all kinds of trickery (including Trick!) and Boiling Water, fire getting a ton of powerful attackers (140 attack Hihidaruma? 145 SpA Shanderaa with...

Really liking the looks of the Overconfidence Scarf idea, it's got a nice variety of stuff it should be able to check and can potentially pick up wins late in matches if your opponents run out of flying types before you run out of crocodile. Intimidate should allow it to do some other stuff...

I don't see offensive Hariyama being worth hyping up outside of maybe some weird Bulk Up sets. It's still going to be best as a tank, probably staying quite similar to how it was in 4th gen - nothing amazing, but capable of checking some very nasty specific opponents. With some bug and fire...

I'm kind of thinking that ScarfChomp could be the big deal now for its extreme revenge killing utility since its 102 speed trolls even more now (with so many things floating in the 90s for base speed, and Urugamosu coming in at 100 with Butterfly Dance which makes it a bigger hurdle for special...

I just said it in another thread, but this thing is going to be intense if you can keep Stealth Rock away. An awful lot of faster Scarfed revenge killers (Starmie, Latias, Gengar) are special based, and might struggle to break its impressive special durability (85 HP and 105 SpD is pretty decent...

Man, who would have thought that such a minor change could so drastically alter a Pokemon? I'd like to see some evidence of whether it copies Choice item boosts or not, and to confirm it does copy stats boosted via Dragon Dance/Agility/etc, because something about "Scarf Ditto outspeeds...

IF Competitive Spirit works with stat drops you cause to yourself and not just ones caused by opponents (a big "if"), then he's got a very nice trick in Superpower boosting his attack. Still, the speed is a problem. I really don't see how some bulk and a barely relevant attack lead will let it...

I really hope this thing gets some major improvements when the inevitable third version rolls around, it's just begging for Earth Power to hit Heatran, or Flamethrower to deter fellow grass types, or anything for type coverage that isn't Hidden Power really. If Contrarian works the way we hope...

I'm really not seeing the appeal of Earthquake Spiral on Gyarados. Bulky sets needs Intimidate obviously, and DD sets...want Intimidate for the easier set up. It's a set up sweeper; the turn it spends dancing will be when the opponent switches in their best counter to it, so the attack boost is...

Starmie should have no problem staying viable. Swimming Goggles will give it plenty of Trick fun in addition to solving the Surf vs Hydro Pump dilemma, and it's faster than a lot of the new dangerous Pokemon, many of whom are fragile, so it should still be a good revenge killer. Gengar likewise...

I voted for Stealth Rock. The sheer number of things it has a big effect on put it ahead. Pretty much every single sweeper has 2HKOs become OHKOs and 3HKOs become 2HKOs because of it. Pretty much every tank/wall has to consider if it can take the hits it needs after SR damage, and also benefits...

Funny that I hadn't seen a single battle overturned until the one where I win via critical hit at the very end. Makes you wonder if this being a joke is the real joke ^_^

So...when does the clause come off the ladder?

Well played. A few things gave it away enough that I sort of expected it to be a joke, but at the same time it was handled well enough that it being real wouldn't have been surprising. All in all, quite amusing.