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  1. Abra Kapocus

    Serious Income Inequality

    I have read some bullshit in my time, but at least this was well-written bullshit, therefore entertaining to read at the very least. I didn't think I would come back to this topic, but I guess I just couldn't resist my own masochistic tendencies (which, incidentally, I imagine will one day be...
  2. Abra Kapocus

    Serious Income Inequality

    Then you gleaned something that wasn't there. I was referring to a sum of money, not advocating for a change in policy. The more times you do this, the more times you come across as a condescending prick. If you can't tell me yourself, then don't even bother pushing search results on me. I...
  3. Abra Kapocus

    Serious Income Inequality

    An unfortunate reality, but I don't believe I ever mentioned "taxing the rich" either. Although to that point there are other ways you can discourage greed-motivated outsourcing, like tax incentives for people who keep jobs here, just to name one. In the meantime, would you care to address the...
  4. Abra Kapocus

    Serious Income Inequality

    Well, at least I can't fault you for being presumptuous. Never did. Where are you getting that I said you did? I was just using the concept to frame my argument about the inconsistency of your position on outsourcing, and how moving the spectrum by cutting off the lower wage jobs was...
  5. Abra Kapocus

    Serious Income Inequality

    I'll give you that one point on NAFTA, largely because the jobs that were moved to China and India (among other countries) happened outside of NAFTA's scope, but the trade deficit it created forced us to import a lot more from other countries, which, in turn killed over 600,000 jobs (415,000 of...
  6. Abra Kapocus

    Serious Income Inequality

    Ah, NAFTA, the gift that keeps on giving. Thank you, Slick Willie! You did a good job agreeing to that. And then you outdid yourself with your massive bank deregulation via the financial services modernization act! Best president ever!
  7. Abra Kapocus

    Lifestyle physical health/fitness thread

    Holy shit, that looks intriguing. I really need to try this. The only question is, once you've achieved a certain degree of results, do you just go through the program again, adjusted for your fitness level, or continue a normal routine?
  8. Abra Kapocus

    Serious Nutrition: A corrupt government's favorite topic

    Hate to say it, man, but you went from not wanting to force beliefs on people to doing just that.
  9. Abra Kapocus

    Serious Income Inequality

    Ah, but there's the point of contention. Can capitalism exist on its own without becoming crony capitalism, or is the latter the inevitable result of the former? If you let private power grow enough, it's going to do whatever it takes to establish permanence. And everyone has a price.
  10. Abra Kapocus

    Serious Income Inequality

    My apologies. "Pro-business policies" is often code for something else, bandied about by greedy CEO's and bought politicians. The policies themselves, once implemented, are almost never what you suggest. They ultimately end up further enriching the ones up top. Call it a knee-jerk reaction...
  11. Abra Kapocus

    Serious Income Inequality

    How do you think this problem started in the first place? Apparently we have no problem legislating it one way, but the other way? Screw that! That's socialism! Help the poor as long as it's convenient for the executives whose companies lobbied for special economic privileges that...
  12. Abra Kapocus

    Serious Income Inequality

    First off, no one is suggesting a 1:1 ratio, as was repeatedly stated throughout this thread. Second, in a worker co-opt society, everyone has equal (or in the neighborhood of equal) stake in the company, so yes there absolutely is an incentive to put in equal work. When the company does well...
  13. Abra Kapocus

    Serious Industrial Farming

    Maybe it wouldn't be incumbent upon us to "feed the world" if we weren't so hellbent on exploiting other countries for their resources by dispatching economic hitmen to destabilize their civilizations, plunging people into massive debts that they can't ever hope to repay, and replacing their...
  14. Abra Kapocus

    Serious Industrial Farming

    A dick move, to be sure. Pay more for unaltered, unprocessed foods (or so is claimed), and pay less for food-like substances that have undergone intense processing. Seems a bit ass-backwards.
  15. Abra Kapocus

    Serious Income Inequality

    To add to this point, executive pay in America is a huge fraud. It's a good-old boys network that rewards incompetence and failure with exorbitant bonuses. Take a look at this. Click on any country highlighted, and that will compare the CEO to worker pay ratio in that country with the US. I...
  16. Abra Kapocus

    Serious Income Inequality

    The top 1% is part of the top 10%.
  17. Abra Kapocus

    Serious Income Inequality

    The chart pretty much discredits any argument that says inequality is not a problem. There's also the fact that the only reason why there is any income inequality at all is because it was legislated, in the form of tax breaks, subsidies, and bailouts. Corporations (or rather the people at the...
  18. Abra Kapocus

    Serious Protecting the environment and/or protecting the economy

    I think that's more or less been the mindset of pretty much most environmental movements from the getgo, to preserve the planet's ability to sustain human life.
  19. Abra Kapocus

    Serious Industrial Farming

    Truth be told, due to what I've been reading about the less-than-ethical practices of factory farming (see: Smithfield), I've been giving strong consideration to at least become a veggie. Problem is, I'm somewhat addicted to meat. It's a hard habit to break, and the same is true for a number...
  20. Abra Kapocus

    Serious A Women's Group Wants to Ban the Word "Bossy"

    Excuse me, who's making this about girls versus boys? It was already about that from the get-go (however unintentional). At least, that's what it turned into, anyway. Hell, wasn't the whole point of this campaign to help make girls more on parity with boys? Such inferences were inescapable...
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