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That set makes me giddy just thinking about it. Shedinja is a counter though.

No. Lickitung gets effectively 26 more in each defense stat, but it trades 20 HP, 30 attack, 20 Special attack and 20 speed not to mention the fact Lickilicky gets to hold an item on top of that.

Worthless? Haha, hardly. And in case you didn't know, almost every sun sweeper set that has made it past C&C for Gen.4 has had Solarbeam as a necessity.

I disagree with your choice of words that sun isn't "as effective as the other weather counterparts". especially in regards to Generation 4. Whenever I would make a team with Tyanitar in it, I would of course look at the pokemon who could abuse sand the best and I thought the list was tiny and...

Of course, that is the big question. IMO, its greatest flaw is its predictability. When your opponent sends out Munchlax, you can probably guess it's holding pre-evolution stone. If your opponent sends out Snorlax, there's always the possibility of Choice Band or Life Orb.

I don't see why you'd run both Kyogre and Politoed on the same team. Sure, there will be plenty of situations where Kyogre will get KOd and your opponent would bring in a weather inducer ending your so-called permanent rain, but at some point you've got to realize you only are allowed to a mere...

The only thing that weakened entry hazards is that defog clears your opponent's entry hazards now (meaning no more spin blockers) and Stealth Rock is no longer a TM. (meaning no Gen.5 pokemon get it and no pokemon from any Gen with egg moves will have it) Entry Hazards will still be commonly...

The thing is, you can throw literally any pokemon on a rain team, so it's kind of funny to see people showing all the things that counter rain sweepers when those counters have counters themselves. And since when did having a counter make something reasonable to play against anyway? There are...

Wow, this is going to be amazing. If you thought there was diversity before...

I completely agree

No Ludicolo runs a plus speed nature in Gen.4's metagames, but Gen.4's metagames didn't have permanent rain in the OU or UU tier.

If Ludicolo runs max plus speed, it outspeeds base 100s with a choice scarf even if they run max plus speed too. Just sayin.

I think he meant confirmed instead of concealed.

Well, Butterfree is immune to ground moves and Spikes. I'm not saying it's good though.

I disagree. BTW, there are technically 8 weather inducers, Vulpix can bring the sun too.

No

I don't think so.

I can't imagine myself writing down someone's team. I might check smogon's analysis of those pokemon, but I would have done that the old way too.

I don't understand this part, could you explain it more?

I like this change. Personally, I think it ADDS strategy. There are plenty of pokemon that will be less effective because and there are plenty of pokemon that will be more effective because of this. I think people are too scared of change, the 4th gen metagame will always be there for you to...