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  1. Ok, thanks for the correction, i will edit it.

    Ok, thanks for the correction, i will edit it.
  2. Ok, thanks for the correction, i will revise it, but what is the difference between "first...

    Ok, thanks for the correction, i will revise it, but what is the difference between "first language" and "native language"?
  3. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 2 - Who am I to break tradition?

    1) And i think that Drizzle is a good reason for using it so i don´t see the problem, and you can say that there isn´t a reason for using Drizzle Politoed without Swift Swim but we haven´t tested it so we don´t know. 2) There are even good pokemons that aren´t water types but can make use of...
  4. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 2 - Who am I to break tradition?

    I haven´t said that Politoed is better than Porygon-Z because it can resist a CC (or at least not in that sense), it is just an example about the bulkiness of Politoed, in other words i´m saying that while Politoed can resist some STAB 120 bp. physical attack, Porygon-Z can´t (even if it the...
  5. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 2 - Who am I to break tradition?

    1) Wait, and all the useful pokemon must be good in both, defensive and ofensive roles, both at the same time? your opponent can´t see the EV´s of your pokemon (and you can´t see the EV´s of his pokemons) or the moves, so you can´t know if the Politoed that is using your opponent is defensive or...
  6. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 2 - Who am I to break tradition?

    1) "If you aren´t basing your team on Gravity, then you mustn´t use Gravity on a pokemon"... makes sense, if Politoed wasn´t used in other generation it is because there were many other water types with better offensive and defensive stats, movepool and abilities, but now there are a few of...
  7. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 2 - Who am I to break tradition?

    Ninetales can be decent with a few of support, it can use Ballons for switch in Ground attacks and it can use Hypnosis and Will-o-wisp for cripplling things like Tyranitar and other counters, and about Doryuuzu, It really need to be baned or we can just ban Sandthrow?, Landlos isn´t so...
  8. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 2 - Who am I to break tradition?

    I´ve explained you before why i think that it isn´t a good idea, with the only use of moves we only will make the weather teams harder to stop because without auto-weather pokemons for stopping the weather of the team of the opponent it will be even harder (i know the limit of 8 turns and...
  9. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 2 - Who am I to break tradition?

    Baning Drizzle will make the metagame unbalanced in favor of sun and sand sweepers (and even more if Shandera is released), baning SwiftSwim will just put the rain teams at nearly the same level as sand teams.
  10. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 2 - Who am I to break tradition?

    You can´t pretend that all the rain sweepers must have both; STAB in water and Thunder/Gale, and Politoed can be a good pokemon (good enough for using a slot in a common team), you can´t compare it with Porygon-Z, remember that the STAB of Porygon-Z don´t cover anything and the normal type isn´t...
  11. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 2 - Who am I to break tradition?

    Are you speaking seriously? What about Dry Skin Toxicroak, Rain Dish Tentacruel (that is very useful in Rain stall teams), Pokemon like Zapdos or Starmie (or the sometimes mentioned Magnezone) that can make good use of Thunder, the usage of the power reduction of fire attacks as an defensive...
  12. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 2 - Who am I to break tradition?

    The problem that some people have with the rain just are two things: -A problem with the Swift Swimmers that severely modify the speed tiers (and the same thing goes in a fewer level for Chlorophyll and SandThrow abusers). -A problem with CM Manaphy, that with Rest and Hydration can be...
  13. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 2 - Who am I to break tradition?

    Do you know the difference between broken and powerful? without Swift Swim (and perhaps we can ban Hydration too) all the rain sweepers can be easily killed revenged so they aren´t broken, and the 1.5 bonus to water attacks is so "broken" as the 1.5 bonus to sp. def of the rock-types, or the...
  14. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 2 - Who am I to break tradition?

    But i think that baning Swift Swim/Hydration is more reasonable than baning Drizzle, and the use of weather-moves isn´t very useful, and between baning Sandstorm or Sandthrow What do you will choose?, it is nearly the same thing (and you can say that Sandstorm+Sandthrow isn´t broken, but after...
  15. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 2 - Who am I to break tradition?

    And there is a rain abuser that is broken without Hydration/Swift Swim?, Or a sand abuser broken without Sandthrow?, Or a sun abuser broken without Chlorophyll?, i want to discuss it, i think that some abusers without these abilities can be powerful, but not broken.
  16. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 2 - Who am I to break tradition?

    Using weather-moves won´t solve nothing, it can be even worse since you can´t use an auto-weather pokemon for finish the sweep of an weather-abuse opponent once it have changed the weather.
  17. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 2 - Who am I to break tradition?

    And why don´t you just ban the broken abilities of weather abuse? (Swift Swim, Sandthrow, Chlorophyll, Hydration and perhaps Sandveil), you have to think that if we ban Drizzle, the metagame will be unbalanced in favor of Sandthrow and Chlorophyll abusers, and if Shadow Tag Shandera is released...
  18. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 1 - ...wait, I'm not Jumpman16!

    It´s just because rain isn´t the dominant weather, from some month ago Tyranitar has been more used than Politoed (in both, DW and Wifi OU tiers of PO, and you can add Hippowdon and it gives you an idea of the usage of sandstorm), and perhaps it isn´t the best source but in the few warstories of...
  19. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 1 - ...wait, I'm not Jumpman16!

    Touche with it, but anyway i keep my other arguments.
  20. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 1 - ...wait, I'm not Jumpman16!

    I´m wondering about why many people haven´t done mention to Ditto as a decent threat against some weather teams, and really, you are overpowering Focus Blast, it can be powerful, but it misses a lot, for now, none of the weather teams (of all the four weathers of the game) totally composed of...
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