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Yeah, I was thinking about that since Seed Bomb isn't much of a step up from Focus Punch... hate inaccuracy but I'll try it.

Alright, so after raging against how gen 5 is so broken, I decided to bite the bullet and join in. My thought process was that weather teams seem to have the most success, or at least ANTI-weather teams, so it was either beat 'em or join 'em. I think I did a little bit of both... Team at a...

Yeah I think I remember you too; like I said, easy to roll me after +2 speed or just any boosts in general. I agree, it seems Dragonite was/is my weakest link in this team, so Flygon should be better as I need a revenge killer. I did have Jirachi with Fire Punch originally but I just didn't use...

Hm... I've tried all your guys' suggestions and I must say; it's working out really well. The only problem I'm facing is that I don't have a pokemon that has priority with these builds right now, and practically any poke that gets a +2 in speed can roll me over. Ideas?

After deciding that I hated getting shat on by an infinite number of lame strats in Gen 5 (every other team having perma-weather, Erufuun with Leech Seed+Substitute+Protect+Taunt, Excadrill, Ditto and Venesaur raping my team, etc. etc.), I thought about going back a generation to the...

Okay, I'll try some stuffs before editing my team, thanks for the input. I'll update my conclusions of what works later.

Hm... I'll try Tentacruel for Espeon, since Forretress would mean I'd probably have to replace Nattorei (or at least as my Spiker). I've never tried Uxie, but if you're suggesting Mental Herb, what good would Trick be? I may also try your Hail+Balloon idea, never thought of it before (other...

**This is OU gen 5 by the way, sorry forgot to put it in the title. Alright, I'm new to this thing so I might jack some people's layouts to make mine look a little prettier (though this team isn't very coherent in my opinion and I wanted to get some advice to make it mesh well together). So...

SS team and no Excadrill (not even a THOUGHT about using him)? o_o Not trying to troll, but he's pretty standard.

Can't tell you how easy it is to rip through teams with this bug... But yeah, SR/Heatran/Aquajet (pretty much Azumarill and Kabutops)/Paralyze (grr Lepard) are all hard counters (Empoleon is resistant to my set, but I have only seen it once this Gen) to it. All Heatran needs is Roar and you'll...