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  1. In-Game Tier List Discussion

    Cobalion is high because it roflstomps most everything from then on. Seventh and Eighth gym, Grimsley, Shauntal, and you get it at a very high level at a late time, but it is very useful from when you get it.
  2. In-Game Tier List Discussion

    Upper/Lower Mid are necessary. We won't get anywhere with certain Pokemon (Dwebble, Joltik, Petilil, Solosis, Panpour, Ducklett, Pidove, and Munna) without those. Some Pokemon are clearly inappropriate in their current tiers. It is in mine and several others in this thread's opinion that Upper...
  3. In-Game Tier List Discussion

    I agree with more tiers. 5 star rating would be nice, but if not Upper Mid and Lower mid. If that happens: Joltik and Petilil both for Upper Mid, Munna, Ducklett, Pidove for Lower Mid.
  4. In-Game Tier List Discussion

    Explain to me how it wins against the gym. Acro from anything hits for over 1/2 damage. Charge Beam is not even a 3HKO at the start, then becomes only a 2HKO, and they are faster.
  5. In-Game Tier List Discussion

    You people aren't getting it are you? PETILIL NEEDS LITTLE TO NO SETUP! If it needs to set up, it is ridiculously easy. Magical Leaf is a pretty strong attack at that point, and Sleep Powder helps with support, and the trainers at Route 4/Resort Desert cater to Petilil's needs as well! Upper...
  6. In-Game Tier List Discussion

    @ spweasel: Why do you consider Tirtouga so low? Shell Smash, Curse, Surf, Waterfall, Rock Slide, Blizzard, etc. Why is it so bad?
  7. In-Game Tier List Discussion

    I am disgusted. POISON JAB GIVES VIRTUALLY NO COVERAGE! Aerial Ace covers everything it gets and MORE! It should not be on a good Maractus set and if this helps its coverage, then Brick Break/Double Kick gives great coverage on Sawk. I'm not saying that combination of Sawk's is bad at the...
  8. In-Game Tier List Discussion

    If arguing about Maractus's moveset helps by saying how much of a good movepool it has, then that's sort of ridiculous. Petal Dance, Return, Aerial Ace, and filler status move. That's what you should have imo and Poison Jab is virtually unnecessary and actually bordering on wasting a moveslot...
  9. In-Game Tier List Discussion

    I agree. Dragon Dance Scraggy is a super hassle, just use work up. Lilligant straight out kills stuff (though I'm a bit biased against it but probably because I didn't use it right, Chlorophyll with Petal Dance) while Whim needs growths. And Munna is frailer than you think. Keep it as Munna till...
  10. In-Game Tier List Discussion

    My experience with Musharna was poor. Psybeam is good early on but it can't hit darks with a special attack UNTIL BEFORE THE SIXTH FREAKING GYM! Psychic and Calm Mind come too little, too late. Too late especially, with mediocre stats until then. Bite and Bug Bite are both common attacks early...
  11. In-Game Tier List Discussion

    Stop comparing Sawk to HGSS Scyther. It is more like HGSS Pokewalker Kangaskhan. They both have strong attack power and are of moderate speed. Scyther has amazing attack power and amazing speed. They both come early but come with a condition (for Sawk, you must play Black. For...
  12. In-Game Tier List Discussion

    ^ It is probably better than Gothitelle though. Though I agree with your point.
  13. Pokémon Black/White in-game discussion

    I'm grinding before Celestial Tower and I am about Level 32: (Not putting items since I am grinding and switching Lucky Egg and Exp. Share between everybody.) Dewott, Scald/Revenge/Grass Knot/Razor Shell Awesome coverage, but struggles a bit against other Grass types. Great stuff, great stuff...
  14. In-Game Tier List Discussion

    ^ Sure, it is obtained only a bit after Joltik (I'm talking about Litwick here) but it has to go through practically 10 levels of sheer grinding, and not accomplishing anything useful like beating trainers and a gym (which Joltik uses to train) And at the end? For Lampent, a slightly boosted...
  15. In-Game Tier List Discussion

    Hammer Arm is fine if you are not using Flame Charge.
  16. In-Game Tier List Discussion

    If you want them in the same tier, Pidove and Ducklett should be low. It isn't at the level of Mid, with things like Deerling and Axew. But it isn't at the level of low either exactly, with Heatmor and Hydreigon. I think if so far we keep it like it is (High/Mid/Low) they should be low. But if...
  17. In-Game Tier List Discussion

    ^ Your point? Axew is good though, he brings up some points. I think IF there is a mid split, he should be in Upper mid. It is super-powerful, gets good coverage, and is moderately fast (compared to the rest of the powerful stuff like Conkeldurr and Eelektross), so it probably deserves Upper Mid.
  18. In-Game Tier List Discussion

    Axew comes too late. After the 6th gym is ridiculously late for high. It is mid, no questions asked.
  19. In-Game Tier List Discussion

    Surf/Air Slash/Blizzard is too little, too late, as IOS said. They both have to go through their poor periods. These bad times are the reason they are so bad. One has 44/44 offenses for a while and one has to rely on Quick Attack and Gust for a while. The latter can be kinda avoided, but in the...
  20. In-Game Tier List Discussion

    That sounds like the most efficient way to use Unfezant, if at all. If Colonel M could put that as a note, that would be nice.
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