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Water Shuriken isn't even a surefire KO against Talonflame even with an Adamant (and I mean even if Greninja was running Adamant) nature without prior damage or Stealth Rocks. And with your set, you NEED to hit all 5 times. And you have no business trying to take on Deoxys-S with Water Shuriken...

I disagree. Just because Delphox has (slightly) higher speed and special attack, does not mean it does that role better than Victini. Since you even admitted that Delpox is not going to be OU, its main foes/walls in UU will be Umbreon, Houndoom, and Chansey (maybe?). Unlike Delphox, Victini puts...

Dude Bro 420, you're really just being a negative nancy for no reason. I said I was surprised, not "Kanga OHKOs Sableye." That wasn't even the main point of my post. Also, I think 2HKOing a Physically Defensive Sableye with only 95 base attack and no band or life orb IS impressive. With hazards...

I kind of feel bad for ever bringing up the whole Sableye vs Scrappy Kangaskhan thing now :(. You're right Nitzudono, PuP does really shitty damage to Def+ Sableye (22.3 - 26.9%). Regardless, I still feel that until the elemental punches are released or until Crunch and Sucker Punch are used...

Not to be contemptuous, but I NEVER said that Kanga beats Sableye 1 on 1. I just was saying that without Mega-evolving, it can touch Sableye and wear it down especially with hazards. Hence why I replied to your quote that literally said Sableye stops a PuP from happening.

It's REALLY hard to disable an attack besides Sucker Punch. Just keep using Substitute until Kangaskhan switches out or uses Sucker Punch. Then you outspeed and disable Sucker Punch the turn after. Also, I can't be the ONLY person using SubDisable Gengar. It certainly is more viable than Sableye...

Just FYI, all Kangaskhans should have Scrappy and, thus, can Power Up Punch on the switch before it Mega-Evolves. And, in my experience, most people wait to mega-evolve if there is a ghost type on the opponents team. Plus, no offense to Sableye, but if you're using it to solely deal with...

I've got to agree with Quaily. Just because Delphox has a BST of 530 does not guarantee it a spot in either OU or UU. I admit that Serebii's "Pokemon of the Week" for Delphox was pretty much bashing, but it was also very true. Delphox struggles to make any kind of impact due to it's stats and...

-Um, there's no way that ALL the Gen 1 starters will be OU. There's just not enough room especially considering they are competing for a mega spot. Venusaur is the most likely since it is just plain good. -Agreed on Feraligtr if Sheer Force is ever released -Empoleon is HARDLY assured to go OU...

Totally true. Although, just imagine the gimmick sets! Also, I would LOVE vacuum wave to add to a special attacking set. On a competitive note, I really like the addition of ice shard. It certainly adds another dimension to a physical attacking set. I doubt it will ever be the preferred set in...

Yeah. We should all be happy. Now Greninja has a damaging egg move that's NOT Bestow. Also, now with Water Shuriken, Shadow Sneak, and Ice Shard, all Greninja's missing is Aqua Jet, Mach Punch, Vacuum Wave, and Sucker Punch. Future move tutors and PokeBank egg moves plz?

Why would Greninja even have -1 though? The whole point of having ice shard would be to REVENGE KILL a Salamence. So, I feel like adding -1 is a bit of a less likely situation. The Garchomp calc is unfortunate, but physical Greninja is so underwhelming that I feel it should always run an...

Are you sure? 252 SpA Life Orb (Custom) (90 BP Surf) vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Heatran: 226-268 (58.7 - 69.61%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 SpA Life Orb (custom) (90 BP Surf) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Tyranitar: 237-281 (58.66 - 69.55%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 SpA Life Orb (custom) (90 BP Surf) vs. 0 HP / 0...

But the addition of a Life Orb kind of negates all of these calculations. With it, Surf is a guaranteed 2HKO on Heatran and Tyranitar too. Even with 252 HP / 252 SpD variants, Surf is still a 2HKO with Life Orb. So, unless you are using a Focus Sash, Surf should be good enough.

I know. Hopefully I didn't sound like I was bashing, but I still just don't feel like Greninja can pull off a dedicated anti-lead set well. Firstly, once the metagame settles down, Smeargle will drop. Secondly, taunting a Glavantula is a double edge sword. I've seen some people running taunt...

The problem with your argument is that avoiding an OHKO does not make Greninja "defensive." It has no reliable recovery and filling a set with ~40 BP priority moves accomplishes nothing if they barely damage a foe. Shadow Sneak and Water Shuriken don't even KO most popular foes weak to them when...

I'm sorry, but this set IS bad. Like really bad. Firstly, you're running a timid nature on a set with only physical attacks. Red Card accomplishes nothing with this set since you'll likely die in one hit. The only lead-like quality this set has is taunt. And taunt is really only useful for...

Yeah, with life orb it is stronger than what I posted above. I guess I had a brain fart. But for the record to BROloom , I did use life orb in the calcs for the set on page 10 so I can't imagine the calcs are wrong. I'm also still confused since (with life orb), I got 47.53 - 56.52%, which is...

My calcs should be right BROloom Are you sure you did Hasty with 4 Atk Evs and 45 BP for 3 hits

Azumarril has way higher attack and has Belly Drum so his priority Aqua Jet should always do more damage. If you're interested in Physical Greninja, look on page 10 where I posted a set that has lots of damage calcs.