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  1. Smogon University PO Statistics — November 2011

    Scizor only has high usage because not only does it serve all the roles it used to, but w/Deo-S gone it's one of about 4 pokemon in OU that can handle CB Terrakion.
  2. Infernape

    IMO, if you're not running MixApe you're using it wrong: 1. It's fast enough to not need a scarf (Deoxys-S is gone, what do you need to outspeed that's worth limiting your own offensive options?) but dedicated scouts could use it (even then, U-Turn on it's own should be enough speed). 2. Swords...
  3. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 5 - Sandstorm (Excadrill/Thundurus Banned)

    Better offensive typing, access to Bulk Up and Drain Punch. 'Nuff said. Deoxys-S could be decent T-Wave support, but it doesn't need the move for it to outspeed the entire metagame.
  4. Weather and its effects on the metagame

    Bog standard teams are the result of uncreative minds. Pokemon is supposed to be an virtual sand box where kids learn to mix and match and throw new pokemon sets together. It's made to spur creativity in people, like this guy. Leafeon @ Choice Band Chlorophyll Adamant or Jolly 252 Atk/252...
  5. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 5 - Sandstorm (Excadrill/Thundurus Banned)

    No problem man. On the 'Rachi thing, it sounds good. All Sp Def Jirachi usually packs is Iron Head, a Parahax inducing move, and Wish-Protect/two filler. You might not even need the protect now that I think about it, but the idea's still the same (half-hax, half-support). But if you're using it...
  6. Gen V Initial NU Metagame Thread

    Rampardos is down here too? Smogon usage is seriously trying my favorite pokemon here. Accelgor I can understand, it's main selling point is Focus Sash+Spikes or Specs but it's bulk is so non-existent it's not right to call them defenses. Gigalith is kinda pushin' it, GameFreak should...
  7. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 5 - Sandstorm (Excadrill/Thundurus Banned)

    Kinda late to that party. The girl's out of the cake and everybody's had a piece. I wouldn't use Metagross as a sweeper, not strong enough to warrant not boosting it's attack, not fast enough to set up on and outspeed offensive teams. If the power creep has done anything it's made Metagross a...
  8. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 5 - Sandstorm (Excadrill/Thundurus Banned)

    Bulbapedia says it doesn't work that way (Serebii's probably more reliable but I use Bulbapedia cuz it just looks more pleasant). Looks like the only thing Metagross has to worry about is SD Gliscor (even then, not really), didn't know it could man handle Gliscor, I'm kinda shocked. Edit...
  9. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 5 - Sandstorm (Excadrill/Thundurus Banned)

    The OHKO is a big deal if don't want to get outsped and EQ'ed on the next turn, Ev's factor in here but I doubt you're surviving a STAB EQ from Gliscor. And if you're using Choice Band Metagross than it should be a Gen 4 version, Hone Claws+Choice Item=Lol And btw, Conkeldurr and Metagross are...
  10. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 5 - Sandstorm (Excadrill/Thundurus Banned)

    I used Choice Band to show how it couldn't handle one shot Gliscor but you're definitely right, and Hammer Arm sounds like a much better option, don't know why I forgot about it, thank for the suggestion. Hopefully Bronzong usage drops (like Azumarrill's) but I'll definitely try it out. And...
  11. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 5 - Sandstorm (Excadrill/Thundurus Banned)

    Metagross @ Iron Ball Nature: Adamant Ev's: 252 Atk/idk -Trick -Ice Punch -EQ -Zen Headbutt/Meteor Mash/Thunderpunch CB 'Gross can't one shot Gliscor without Adamant nature and near if not max attack so I don't think this thing will be taking down Gliscor one on one anytime soon. I know I suck...
  12. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 5 - Sandstorm (Excadrill/Thundurus Banned)

    Hey Smack Down was pretty good on Excadrill, in lieu of X-Scissor (which it probably needed more but it worked), if Bronzong or Skarm was your opponents main 'Drill counter Smack Down on the obvious switch and EQ could seriously dent if not KO (probably not a one shot but 'Zong wasn't too...
  13. Gen V Initial NU Metagame Thread

    Accelgor and Gigalith in NU? Accelgor looks like Deoxys-s lite in this tier and it bugs me how low Gigalith has dropped. It's not that good (great defensive stat, terrbile typing to back it up) but I still remember when it was one of the more common leads in OU (before people wised up and...
  14. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 5 - Sandstorm (Excadrill/Thundurus Banned)

    Metagross probably should be used more (great typing, good movepool, nice stat spread) but if usage makes him drop to UU it could be a really fun tier, or broken depending on the people who handle the stages or w/e. However I also agree that lead Gross is pretty underwhelming in OU now. It just...
  15. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 5 - Sandstorm (Excadrill/Thundurus Banned)

    Finally I have 6 pokemon again. Excadrill needed to be gone. Shame Thundurus got the boot, but at least Volcarona in sun is that much more powerful. And why do people think Rain usage will drop? I've seen a lot of Rain teams without Thundurus, same with Sand.
  16. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 5 - Sandstorm (Excadrill/Thundurus Banned)

    Players complain about everything. If we gave in to whining on these threads we would be left with nothing but Little Cup. However, your argument is wrong for one sole reason, popularity doesn't correlate with power or "broken-ness."
  17. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 5 - Sandstorm (Excadrill/Thundurus Banned)

    Times have changed since 4th Gen. With Espeon, Mr. Mime, Vaporeon, and Nincada BP teams are much stronger than the ones you worked with.
  18. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 5 - Sandstorm (Excadrill/Thundurus Banned)

    BP doesn't really have a true counter, at least not if you build it right. It's really tried by people as a "nooby" playstyle but it's pretty good at covering it's bases. ginga said why skarm doesn't work, dragontail doesn't work on subs (vap gets those defensive boosts up so it might not even...
  19. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 5 - Sandstorm (Excadrill/Thundurus Banned)

    Apparently there's no need to have reqs to propose something so that part of the process is more or less open but Excadrill is in a weird space. I don't particularly care about how much he wrecks Heavy Offense because we shouldn't be tiering to promote certain playstyles but my beef is how much...
  20. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 5 - Sandstorm (Excadrill/Thundurus Banned)

    My guess is the number of young players on Smogon. There's some deep strategy and math involved but I think we forget how many 10 year olds play Pokemon sometimes.
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