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**kd24** · Jun 21st, 2008, 11:50:32 AM

I would name it Offensive Calm Mind and leave out suicune. Unless you didn't intend suicune to be part of the name anyway. We talked a lot about this set on shoddy and aim and I think it does have potential. Of course losing to Blissey with Toxic now hurts it and even Blissey without toxic might win, but I still think the set can work because of the extra attacking options it gives you...

This particular Suicune is very effective. It has enough Defense to recover off, and enough Special Attack and Speed to sweep. What makes this different from the other Suicune Calm Mind set, is that this set relies more on attacking and holds 3 attacks instead of 2.

As far as walling goes, it still can do a good job against sweepers such as Metagross and Garchomp. Suicune does an extremely good job defeating sweepers such as Lucario and Dragonite as it can outspeed them both and kill with Surf and Ice Beam, respectively.

Calm Mind is obviously there to raise Suicune's Special Attack and let it sweep. Surf / Hydro Pump gives it a good STAB and some power. Hidden Power Electric and Ice Beam give good coverage, and can hurt a plethora of Pokemon.

For your STAB attack, Hydro Pump is recommended, as the power is too good to drop. However, if you don't want to rely on accuracy, Surf is always an alternative to Hydro Pump. Use Hidden Power Electric if you fear Gyarados, and Hidden Power Grass if you fear Swampert.

Jun 21st, 2008, 11:50:32 AM	#2
kd24 Surprise Mother Fucker Moderator Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,769 HOME	I would name it Offensive Calm Mind and leave out suicune. Unless you didn't intend suicune to be part of the name anyway. We talked a lot about this set on shoddy and aim and I think it does have potential. Of course losing to Blissey with Toxic now hurts it and even Blissey without toxic might win, but I still think the set can work because of the extra attacking options it gives you... <p>This particular Suicune is very effective. It has enough Defense to recover off, and enough Special Attack and Speed to sweep. What makes this different from the other Suicune Calm Mind set, is that this set relies more on attacking and holds 3 attacks instead of 2.</p> <p>As far as walling goes, it still can do a good job against sweepers such as Metagross and Garchomp. Suicune does an extremely good job defeating sweepers such as Lucario and Dragonite as it can outspeed them both and kill with Surf and Ice Beam, respectively.</p> <p>Calm Mind is obviously there to raise Suicune's Special Attack and let it sweep. Surf / Hydro Pump gives it a good STAB and some power. Hidden Power Electric and Ice Beam give good coverage, and can hurt a plethora of Pokemon.</p> <p>For your STAB attack, Hydro Pump is recommended, as the power is too good to drop. However, if you don't want to rely on accuracy, Surf is always an alternative to Hydro Pump. Use Hidden Power Electric if you fear Gyarados, and Hidden Power Grass if you fear Swampert.</p> __________________ My YouTube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLemondrop7 Last edited by kd24; Jun 21st, 2008 at 12:12:32 PM.