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Old Dec 4th, 2008, 12:10:58 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by Fat Hey Oh View Post
i'll go through poke by poke

zam - fire punch is for jirachi/metagross. Without fire punch zam can barely touch both of them. Gyarados can be stopped by gar once, snorlax/meta can slow it down as well. Zam is probably the only poke there's absolutely nothing i will change on.


duggy - The evs just let it take extra hits, ice beam from bliss, as well as things such as hp grass/ice's from elec pokes

you're still going to get 2hko by icebeam and everything else without the evs

raikou - raikou's need at least 338 hp, and this one needs over 350 speed. I decided to add a little extra hp incase they get spikes on me, so i can still give bliss a run if it didnt die first. I chose 352 hp to get a lefties point.

you're not going to give any blissey a run with raikou without a lot of luck

Metagross - Generally i try to save metagross, so i can reflect boom, then go right to raikou/gar/zam for the sweep, since not many physical moves can ko them at that point. I might consider adding a random hp grass over it though just to try it out. The evs are to simply to take hits from all over with less damage. No specific reasons

i dont see how going boom on metagross is going to set up a sweep for raikou/gar/zam

Gar - The gar really needs ice punch, not really for dragons, but more for celebi, as well as the fast ko to dragons. If i try giga drain it would be over wisp. The evs are to get to a lefties point, so it can take some kind of hit before i wisp, kill, boom etc.

1) gar wont 2hko celebi with ice punch
2) celebi 1hko your gengar with psychic
3) take out some speed

Lax - the evs are so it can do alot of damage to just about everything, while still walling quite well. I've used alot of lax evs in the past, and these are the boomlax evs & set i've come to like best. Return is just a personal preference over body slam, i like that extra damage boost.

your only safe counter to a gyarados but the best you can do still selfdestruct. since its a suicide team you might think its worth it though i disagree

to falkner - you understand the team, you understand why i have most of my pokes/evs/moves. Thankyou for your educated posts.
and why dont u just get an endeavor sceptile to kill blissey? its much more effective than your CMzam
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