Join Date: Nov 2008
Originally Posted by Fat MarioChalmers
You really do need Wish somewhere on this team. Only One of your six pokemon have a recovery move, not counting LS. I'd suggest Changing Clefable to a Wisher and adding in an Umbreon somewhere. Also besides SR and the occasional LS you really do not have that much residual damage. Have you considered a Nidoqueen to set up TS, or Someone to set up weather, like Obamasnow?
I did consider Toxic Spikes, but felt that it would interfere with all of the status I'm spreading already.
Originally Posted by Fat Croconaw Guy
I really don't like what Shaymin can do to this team. Registeel can take any of its hits, but Earth Power hurts like hell and Registeel can't actually do anything back bar exploding. Speaking of dead Registeel, its lack of recovery sure isnt great since it's the only thing that can stop Raikou. Your team can't really stop fire-types like Moltres very well either, and while SR eats away at them quickly, you're still in a lot of trouble when they're alive. Arcanine is great for the specs stuff, but with SR down (and it usually is) secondary attacks are likely going to beat it.
The problems with this team all come back to recovery. You really don't stand a chance against any other stall team since your team will fall into the same trap offensive teams do - the Pokemon get worn down and stalled to death. The difference is that your team doesn't pose an offensive threat, so it doesn't have a chance to blow through the opposing walls.
Another problem is that on top of no recovery outside of Softboiled Clefable and the very shaky Leech Seed, your team has trouble doing damage. Uxie, Swalot, and Registeel aren't going to hurt a thing, and only Uxie contributes passive damage in the form of SR. Tangrowth also has a powerful Power whip, but with poor accuracy and a poor attack type, it's not going to do anything either, and Clefable isnt doing any...damage. Arcanine is probably your best bet at doing damage outside of SR, but SR itself will hammer it and it will eventually fall (and really, it's not that hard to wall by Milotic or Chansey). Because of this, you're going to have a lot of trouble with bulky sweepers like Rest Shaymin, LO Milotic, and even stuff like Tauros if the user outpredicts you.
Your team is basically stall without needed elements of stall (Spikes, Toxic, recovery, etc.)
To fix these problems, I would first put in Wish support, as the previous poster suggested. A Rapid Spinner and maybe a Spin blocker would also be welcome. Leech Seed won't be enough to heal your team at all.
I would just drop stuff that isn't really doing anything. Think Swalot especially. The whole bulk of the team feels very flimsy. I would seriously consider making major changes, since a lot tears up your team right now. As I eluded to earlier, you'll want to get Spikes support and certainly Toxic poison being spread around. Clefable is the only thing that does that (and it could get something like a Chocie Band in return - not good). That way, your team will actually be able to do damage, and with Wish support, stick around long enough to let the damage really take its toll.
I noticed that Swalot didn't do much, and lack of recovery really hurt me.
Originally Posted by Fat HeYsUp
Oh boy, lets start with the little stuff first.
Firstly, Arcanine's moveset is great, but you really need to use Intimidate. Especially since Staraptor can break your team very easily.
Suggestion: Swap Flash fire for intimidate on Arcanine.
Also, you should keep with the theme of burning things imo, you should put burn orb on Clefable, this makes it not interfere with your other status. In fact as a whole, i think you need to cut out your other status's because they really dont mix well. What i would do is make your Registeel either have Counter, or Rest over Thunder Wave.
Suggestion: Burn Orb on Clefable, and Rest/Counter over Thunderwave on Registeel.
Now on to the more durastic stuff.....
Well, Swalot is really really not a very good pokemon, it gets seriously dominated by every SAtker. What i think you should do here is Take this out for a defensive Roserade. Roserade also adds another aspect to your team that you really need: Spikes. Spikes+SR is really needed on a stall team. Roserade can be a Special Wall while adding, Spikes, actually Strong attacks, Aromatherapist and another Form of Recovery.
Suggestion: Change Swalot into Roserade.
Ok, so everyone is giving me the same suggestions: Add more Recovery, bring in Spikes/T-Spikes, and get a Spin Blocker. Recovery I can easily change by giving Clefable Wish>>Trick. I can then sub out Swalot for a Spiking Froslass. Uxie can then be replaced with a Roserade that can set up T-Spikes, and place SR>> Explosion on Registeel. THoughts?
Has officially left the Community of Smogon due to the immense theorymon that just pissed me off. I'll be on Shoddy still.