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Dec 12th, 2009, 6:50:18 PM	#3
Xia I am your big brother Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,464	Quick Feet Sweep move 1: Facade (American spelling) [SET COMMENTS] <p>This set makes Teddiursa a great sweeper, courtesy of its ability to boost its Speed without even having to take damage from an attack. Teddiursa has the power to hit walls relatively hard, and has enough Speed to outrun every Pokémon who is not carrying the item Choice Scarf.</p> <p>Facade will be your main method of doing damage, as it has a Base Power of 210 (factoring in STAB) once Teddiursa is poisoned. With your other two moves, you should try to hit the Pokémon who resist or are immune to Normal-type attacks. The Pokémon that fall into this category are Rock, Steel, and Ghost. Crunch is your best option against Ghost-type Pokémon and will severely hurt all but Duskull; sadly, it just misses out on the OHKO on Misdreavus. Close Combat destroys Aron and Shieldon while doing a good amount of damage to Bronzor (however, not enough to beat Oran Berry versions) and will keep all of the Rock-types bar Oran Berry Onix from coming in. Seed Bomb could be used to annihilate all the Rock- and Ground-type Pokémon, but allows Steel-type Pokémon such as Bronzor to completely wall this set. Ice Punch can work to gain the ability to 2HKO all Gligar and OHKO those without heavy defensive investment; however, the loss of coverage is significant, sacrificing the ability to hit Steel-types effectively.</p> <p>The choice between Protect and Swords Dance depends on preference and how easily you think Teddiursa will be able to set up and how much Teddiursa needs to set up and if it is bulky enough to.</p> <p>Protect is the first option for the fact that you can get your Speed boost for “free”, and keep your health as high as possible. This set can also be used well as a lead while using Protect, stopping Fake Out leads from hitting you first turn, and then OHKOing next turn (being statused also stops Hypnosis from most notably Meowth).</p> <p>Swords Dance is an option since many people switch out to an appropriate counter that is bulky enough to survive any attacks of Teddiursa's. However, with a Swords Dance under the belt, this is normally a different story, this needs good prediction as Teddiursa isn’t too bulky in a metagame where it's one or 2HKOes normally and every turn more health is being taken away automatically.</p> <p>The main drawback to this set is the abundance of priority that Little Cup contains so much of. Along with the fact Teddiursa has substandard defences and Toxic Orb zapping away HP every turn. It really makes Teddiursa's survivability minimal. Any Pokémon who carries a Choice Scarf and/or has a Speed of over 14 can check this set as well. Any bulky Pokémon can decently come in and counter this set unless Teddiursa has set up a Swords Dance. Teddiursa lacks the ability to 2HKO some common Pokémon who carry Oran Berry without a Swords Dance set up and/or resist the move Facade. This makes it a more late game sweeper.</p> <p>Misdreavus works out rather well with this set. It is immune to both priority attacks commonly directed towards Teddiursa, and is immune to Teddiursa's only weakness. A good partner is the Sub Nasty Plot set, since it takes more advantage from forced switches, and can do an excessive amount of damage (often seen as broken). Another good companion for this set is Gligar. Gligar has the bulk to take priority with, and can even set up in the face of it, be it a Rock Polish or Swords Dance set. Another Pokémon who works well when coupled with Teddiursa is Slowpoke. Slowpoke has great defenses, a Fighting-type resistance, and the ability to recover health and paralyse opposing Pokémon. But it isn’t just bulky Pokémon that help this set, any Pokémon with U-turn can help Teddiursa immensely, giving a set up of Toxic Orb without giving them a free turn. Most notably Scarfed Mankey helps with the ability to draw out Ghost Pokémon for the KO via Teddiursa’s Crunch.</p> Choice [SET] nature: Adamant / Jolly [SET COMMENTS] <p>With the help of Choice Band or Choice Scarf boosting your Attack or Speed stat respectively, Teddiursa can be an effective sweeper. Choice Band gives you the power to be a great early game wall breaker such as 2HKOing Bronzor with Close Combat, freeing up the game for your other sweepers, while Choice Scarf gives you the speed to outpace and clean up late in the game without taking damage. The moves allow you to hit virtually everything; Return hits most Pokémon with a good amount of power, Crunch can take out any Ghost bar Duskull, and Close Combat is nice for both Steel- and Rock-types who switch in expecting to take minimal damage from Return. Ice Punch is mainly for Gligar, whom it will OHKO, however Seed Bomb is an alternative option for taking down bulky Water-types and hitting Rock- and Ground-types harder at the same time.</p> <p>Choice Scarf is not a preferred item because the Quick Feet set with Protect will give you the same boost along with the ability to freely switch moves. However, if losing health every turn from your Toxic Orb doesn't appeal to you, a Choice Scarf is always a viable option.</p> <p>Slowpoke is a good partner if you opt to use the Choice Band set. Slowpoke can paralyse opposing Pokémon, making up for the lack of Speed that a Choice Scarf will give you. Ekans can also work out well with Teddiursa, as it too resists Fighting-type attacks, has Intimidate, and can also paralyze Pokémon. With Choice Scarf held, Croagunk and Misdreavus make very good partners. They deal with Fighting-type attacks extremely well, and can dish out damage like no other, freeing Teddiursa for a late game clean up.</p> Other Options <p>A Substitute and Focus Punch set could work, but Close Combat is generally a more reliable Fighting move to use. Cross Chop's 80% accuracy makes Close Combat the preferred choice again, but if defense drop puts you off Cross Chop is always there as the second option. Earthquake can also replace Close Combat, but it's weaker and can't touch Bronzor. Fire Punch hits Bronzor slightly harder than Close Combat but still misses out on 2HKOing Oran Berry variants, unless you opt for the Choice Band set, otherwise really has no use.</p> <p>Teddiursa also has access to RestTalk + Roar making it a great phazer, when Sleep talk chooses Roar, it will be at the Speed stat of 21 (Teddiursa’s when boosted) losing the minus priority and switching out the opposing Pokémon. This may seems foolproof, all I need is Stealth Rock but the unreliability of Sleep Talk choosing Roar over Rest means you may not be useful at all.</p> <p>The teddy has a huge array of physical attacks all can be used for specific counters to Pokemon unless the boosted Facade is more powerful, which it often is. These physical are just moves that hurt, setting up is another key part to Teddiursa’s sweep, Swords Dance is shown but there is something more risky, more powerful, Belly Drum. With +6 Attack and +1 Speed (Toxic Orb + Quick Feet boost) Teddiursa can officially sweep; it’s greater risk for greater reward.</p> EVs <p>Maxing out Attack and Speed is the best option for the majority of sets in order to maximize the offensive efficiency that Teddiursa brings to the table. In order to do so, it requires 196 EVs in both. This leaves you with enough spare EVs to get an extra two points in HP or one point in HP and one in each of Defense, Special (this doesn't seem like a complete thought). The choice between them is simple, on all sets, extra Defense and Special Defense points are more valuable so a spread of 36 HP / 196 Atk / 36 SpA / 36 SpD / 196 Spe is the best option always.</p> Opinion <p>Teddiursa is one of the cutest Pokémon ever made. However, don't let its looks fool you. It's one powerhouse of a sweeper. It has access to a fantastic physical movepool and a solid base Attack stat of 80, giving it very impressive offensive coverage.</p> <p>It also boasts Quick Feet, one of only two Pokemon (the other being Poochyena). Quick Feet gives it the ability to outpace all non-boosted Pokémon in the metagame speed of a Choice Scarfed Pokémon without being locked into one move once affected by status with its item (again, not a complete thought). However it lacks both the Speed to beat most common Choice Scarfed Pokémon even with Quick Feet and the raw power to get OHKOs on bulkier opponents, unless it is hitting them with a boosted Facade. A lack of priority moves is also something that hinders Teddiursa's sweeping potential.</p> <p>Teddiursa is also bulky enough to sweep and on some teams even has time to set up with good prediction. Teddiursa can survive a HP fight with Misdreavous (with Life Orb) and get a KO back with Stealth Rock damage help.</p> <p>Teddiursa does have solid defenses, but with residual damage with Toxic Orb and entry hazards like Stealth Rock that have already been set up means Teddiursa’s sweeps wont last long.</p> Counters <p>Bronzor is a great counter to Teddiursa as it can only be hit for neutral damage almost all of the time, and can OHKO the Quick Feet set with Gyro Ball after a Close Combat Defense drop. Choice Scarf Ghosts can come in on any Normal- or Fighting-type move and score a KO with their own attacks. Choice Scarfed Pokémon like Diglett, Abra, and Gligar can come in on the turn you Protect and beat Teddiursa, or they can come in and revenge kill it with ease thanks to its lack of priority. Anything with Protect can stall whilst the Toxic Orb damage racks up on the Quick Feet set will beat Teddiursa as well.</p> <p>Priority users can be effective revenge killers, especially those that have Vacuum Wave or Mach Punch (the super effective priority). Good examples of these revenge priority killers would include Croagunk, Magby other bulkier pokemon such as Kabuto who can also take advantage on the switch.</p> <p>Teddiursa can be hard to switch into, but a bulky Scarfer such as Gligar can come in with ease and KO normally with Earthquake after Toxic Orb damage.</p> Done. I hope this helps. =] Last edited by Xia; Dec 13th, 2009 at 11:02:19 AM.