just follow the format of any of the people who have posted records so far, post your full team with items, EVs, natures, abilities and moves and share your strategy with us
Originally Posted by Fat deuteronopia
One of the PIs. You all look the same to me.
Meta 4, QC boom
Gliscor 3, Countersash, French
Walrein 3, Restalk OHKO
Kingler 2, French
sucks that you lost, again your team is probably my favorite doubles team ever. like last time, i'm going to offer some 20/20 hindsight advice that may be off since i don't know too much about doubles, but...what if you had surfed with starmie first turn instead of used rain dance, while still telling meta to FO (fake out, get it, etc)? i know your priority is to get rain up, but you could almost rest assured that meta would be targeting toxicroak regardless of move and that your FO would preempt its QC no matter what. and even though starmie's surf wont kill gliscor (85-101% to the one you thought it was, won't ever kill the sash one for obvious reasons), you yourself have a sash and there's no way starmie is dying turn 1.
so when you surf and FO, meta flinches and gliscor uses counter, you can surf again, killing gliscor, doing ~35% again to metagross and have faster croak use low kick on king idiot's heavy ass for the kill since turn 2 isn't where oyu got QCed after all (42-50%). then you're up 4-2, and, though without rain, stand a great chance of winning since starmie's sash is untouched and you can no longer fall victim to QC. there like isnt even a PI poke that can stop sash starmie from getting rain up "probably", i'm not going to check the DP list to confirm but like ony duggy can outspeed starmie, ok i cheated and peeked and reminded myself that i didnt have to cause natures aren't listed which means the usual 16% chance duggy could even fissure your timid starmie. as it would have played out with a turn 1 surf, you could RD against walrein/kingler (and be thankful that kingler doesnt have swift swim like it "could"), starmie survives no matter what, and you can thunder either one (especially dumbass walrein with its stupid brightpowder starmie doesnt care about) even if they kill toxicroak.
alternately, if you play it the way you did, you could have surfed kingler on turn 4. *the* reason, as i look at kingler's stats right now, that it is NU is the fact that it has 55HP/50SpD, which is even worse than i thought. if you add a very reasonable 25 points to both, you have 80/130/115/50/75/75 that still doesn't exactly make it a great pokemon, but its Special Defense is absolute shit. i dont blame you for not knowing this, but surf does 30% on average even to the incredibly self-conscious, HP/SpD EVed Kingler, meaning that it could have died to Surf+GK since GK did ~70%. you would then have been able to thunder walrein's gay ass back to the north pole the next turn since starmie would have been alive no matter what thanks to sash, and also kingler doesn't outspeed starmie even after salac because of all its special overcompensation (unlike in Plat).
so even if you didn't get rain up turn 1, i think you are ultimately going to feel pretty good about these words here because they mean your team is still awesome and you just need to get used to it more.
Originally Posted by Fat Bozo
i thought the "who would be so lame as to use a pokemon with no attacking moves?" comment coming from a person who uses a lead with no attacking moves would be a candidate for the most obviously sarcastic thing in this thread ;)
well he did say "create", not use, so i think he was talking about the tower in general having such sets because they can be very annoying to face especially in the factory (if anything he is hating on glen for creating glenscarfing in the first place)