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dubious · Mar 29th, 2010, 10:52:26 AM

I might be using the calculator incorrectly, but the result of Hydro Pump against lead Metagross was 51.9% - 61.3% and Jirachi is 48.2% - 56.8%, which are both 2HKO's. Versus Azelf is 90.7% - 107.2% plus Aqua Jet due to the fact the Azelfs almost always carry Focus Sash.

Relax, Brick Break is merely an option in case of a rise in useage of dual screens.

I'm not saying Golduck>Vaporeon, but I'm not saying Vaporeon>Golduck either. Each of the lead water pokemon have their advatages.
Empoleon-Stealth Rock
Starmie-Rapid Spin
Vaporeon-Late Game Support(Wish, Heal Bell, typing etc)
Golduck-Speed and variety(Damp, Cloud Nine, Hypnosis, Encore, typing etc)

EDIT: If you wanted to you could run Blizzard or Icy Wind(max speed on Vaporeon) to beat Roserade(assuming Vaporeon or Golduck make it to the 2nd turn).

Mar 29th, 2010, 10:52:26 AM	#754
dubious Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 34	I might be using the calculator incorrectly, but the result of Hydro Pump against lead Metagross was 51.9% - 61.3% and Jirachi is 48.2% - 56.8%, which are both 2HKO's. Versus Azelf is 90.7% - 107.2% plus Aqua Jet due to the fact the Azelfs almost always carry Focus Sash. Relax, Brick Break is merely an option in case of a rise in useage of dual screens. I'm not saying Golduck>Vaporeon, but I'm not saying Vaporeon>Golduck either. Each of the lead water pokemon have their advatages. Empoleon-Stealth Rock Starmie-Rapid Spin Vaporeon-Late Game Support(Wish, Heal Bell, typing etc) Golduck-Speed and variety(Damp, Cloud Nine, Hypnosis, Encore, typing etc) EDIT: If you wanted to you could run Blizzard or Icy Wind(max speed on Vaporeon) to beat Roserade(assuming Vaporeon or Golduck make it to the 2nd turn). Last edited by dubious; Mar 30th, 2010 at 7:27:11 PM.