Originally Posted by Fat SHUCKLE MAN
About, Weavile and Heracross, it's actually crazy to think that the top 15 was once:
Infact, it's weird to think that Cresselia was once #9, but now it's not even standard!
Things really have changed...before 4th Gen, Kingdra wasn't OU. Vaporeon started out UU and moved up a tier every generation though it's probably capped at OU. Still, it's surprising the changes within