Originally Posted by Fat Banryu
Well, I think that's oversimplifying exactly what I said a bit, but I see your point. :0 I sometimes have a little trouble articulating precisely what I mean to say... so I'll probably use that, thanks.
Changed the Swords Dance set to Dragon Dance, with the moves described previously. I'm kind of struggling with the item to use on it, since Life Orb / Flare Blitz recoil means it can't last more than maybe one or two KOs, but Oran Berry means it loses out on power. Does anyone have any suggestions to fix this?
Make DD Leichi and option with Fire Punch. IE the set will be:
Flare Blitz / Fire Punch
ThunderPunch / Dragon Claw
Brick Break / Substitute
Life Orb / Liechi Berry
Jolly / Adamant
evs: 44 HP / 180 Atk / 12 Def / 36 SpD / 236 Spe
Then explain in set comments that Fire Punch + Dragon Claw are the best combo for DD SubLiechi because of the neutral coverage, but without Substitute ThunderPunch + Brick Break give you much better super effective coverage (AKA you'll OHKO Munchlax and Mantyke (other waters too)
Remove Rock Slide...it hits nothing important that ThunderPunch and Brick Break don't.
Originally Posted by Fat banryu
I will stand in defense of the Scarf set, just because I've had a reasonable degree of success with it, and it's probably better than the nearly-identical Scarf Cyndaquil.
Sorry if I sound rude, but this rational is completely flawed and is not good enough. You need to legitimately explain why Charmander is not "100%" outclassed by Cyndaquil if you really think it should be kept.
For example, you need to explain what advantages Charmander has, and why it's worth losing Scarf Eruption; the only reason to use Cyndaquil in the first place.
Be careful, as well, that you don't come up with something that is 100% outclassed by Magby (if you were to suggest Flare Blitz and ThunderPunch, for example).