I'm not sure what "the appropriate changes" would be, since the only ones really arguing about it are those two guys disagreeing with each other on various things... And surely you mean BL, since Typhlosion and Co. aren't OU in any sense.
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Originally Posted by Fat Borat
And let's face it, based on usage (aka to eliminate our respective biases), Vaporeon is a hell of a lot more popular than Zam. People actually try countering vaporeon and legitimately consider it a threat when building a team. Bleh, I don't think Zam has been OU for about half a decade now.
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The response I expected, and fair enough... usage isn't power, though I'm not actually that's true that Vaporeon is even used more because who the hell uses it any more than they do Alakazam? I've seen neither one at all lately, between my SPL opponents and the randoms that have challenged me a few times here and there, except for the Alakazam on my own team. Earthworm told me he saw a couple 'Zams from others, though. *shrug*
Alakazam is a lot better than Vaporeon anyway. AA/Growth/Surf/Rest as a self-sufficient pokémon is hardly a huge threat itself, between the Electrics, 'Zam, Suicune itself (Roar varieties), Eggy, just to name a few things that all stop it cold no matter what...