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Old Jul 29th, 2010, 1:23:06 PM   #2913
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I fixed it CBshuckle, that´s not nitpicking...when someone finds flaws in the list, just post them here

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Originally Posted by Fat VaporeonIce View Post
Peterko, I used the a similar Latias in the Frontier (without Trick support, since I was in the Arcade and such) with the same moves, and I was incredibly underwhelmed by its physical bulk, and even its special bulk at times (it really doesn't like crits). Combine that with the fact that it's weak to Shadow Claw and Night Slash (both of which have high crit rates), and the fact that Gallade is weak to Shadow Claw, and I'm frankly a little surprised it did as well as it did. Have you thought about DD/Sub/Waterfall/Outrage Kingdra in the second spot? It doesn't have the awesome Ground immunity that Latias does, but Registeel resists its only weakness, Water/Dragon STABs have insane coverage. That would take care of Flare Blitz pretty well too; I'd think your biggest problems would be getting hit by fast status before Kingdra got a Sub up. I haven't tried it in the Frontier yet, though, so it may be better in theory than it is in practice.
1. shadow claw and night slash (this is neutral on gallade) are both resisted by registeel and I wouldn´t set up latias on them...unless you meant the physical fire types, they´re bothering me...shadow claw is pretty much always unSTABed, night slash is an issue for everyone coughnotstupidbattlearmorshtcough...

2. yes latias is hardly physically bulky but in the garchomp area (187/110 vs 183/116, in this case my latias is 181/114) of taking struggles (yeah not comparable attack-wise 182 vs 132)...special attacks are another story with trick you´re up against NVE attacks and none of those threatens a CMing latias even if CHing, because most of the time you´re faster

3. I had to use latias because:

a) I needed a ground immunity, noone wants to set up on earthquakes
- salamence (DD/sub/roost/DC) comes in mind here, intimidate helps against phys. fire, but I also needed

b) an electric resist, because it is neutral on gallade and they use it a lot
- I don´t want to have a paralyzed registeel take on stuff as it´s not what you call a sweeper
- with lumlatias I just memento gallade after trick and set up easily with latias
- electric is neutral on kingdra as well, pretty much a 3HKO if not 2HKO :(
- garchomp would be ideal but I don´t want to set it up on quakes with it, either

c) water comes to mind as well
-latias likes special water
-fast waterfall is worse - the diff. between this and blitz is 50% damage, recoil and burn chance, but waterfall is a lot more manageable

all of these are not an issue with a lead trick latias, so this team is quite a big change from my elite one

yeah, but this team has other positives, like memento and latias make gastrodon a joke for example, also I just straight memento yanmega and registeel laughs
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