Originally Posted by Fat Vacancy
Might as well rate since I did post previously.
Okay, I disagree with [DR] InferNape about this team having a DD Gyara weakness. Celebi completely walls Gyarados if its not carrying Bounce.
This team benefits a lot more with offensive Suicune so that part I agree with InferNape. With screens up, Offensive Suicune could potentially break holes through opponents teams.
Hariyama seems like a good variation of Machamp and looks like a good set but it has a small problem against Rotom forms. Without Payback you won't be doing too much against defensive Rotom. That forces a switch and could be costly for your team. I would personally use Machamp. I like the creativity of Hariyama but I'm not sure if it fits this team too well. Be careful against Sub Pain Split Gengar when you have Bronzong out, it could decimate half your team.
Other than that, this team looks well built and I wish the best of luck to it.
I have been switching back and forth between the Payback and Ice punch on Hariyama, with pretty even results on both sets.
The sub/pain-split gengar is one reason I actually like having this version of Suicune. If he comes in on Bronzong, I Light screen up and if he is low on hp, I let him die or else switch to Suicune. Shadow ball is a 4hko with light screen so i start calmminding and rest/sleep talk as necessary. I (almost) always end up at +6/+6 and end up taking out gengar with around 60% health remaining.