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Originally Posted by Fat D0nut Eater
Yea it has. Normally Occa was standard but people swapped over to Lum cause of the Machamp shitstorm.
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I ran Lum way before the 'Machamp shitstorm'. Basically, Occa doesn't actually do all that much for you since Azelf still doesn't KO with <Fire move>, Shuca/Specs Tran beat you anyway and you have to have EQ to do anything to Infernape. EQ + Occa lets you beat Infernape, Lum + Mash lets you beat Azelf, Roserade, Smeargle AND Machamp as well as letting you take random statuses.