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afterburn · Sep 2nd, 2010, 11:31:18 AM

Hey there, solid team you have there, I have a few suggestions to improve it as a whole.

Threats
DD Tyranitar, DD dragonite, Mixed Flygon (Special+Physical), Life Orb Shaymin

How they're threats
Tyranitar, although can't directly switch in, can come in on Celebi at -2 Special Attack and do a number to your team with a boost. If its life orb, you can risk staying in and thunderwaving, but if you mispredict and expect it to be a Scarf Tar, then it will at the very least 2HKO all your team members between Crunch/Stone Edge/Earthquake, bar Swampert, who'll surely get prior damage since he's in the lead spot. Dragonite, although it gets a few opportunities to set-up (can take an air-slash from Togekiss), can rip through your team with repeated +1 Dragon Claws and Earthquakes that may be very troublesome to the team. You can try to paralyze it with T-wave (again some carry lum berry to overcome Outrage confusion), but thats about it. Mix Flygon and Life Orb Shaymin outspeed every member of your team, the former puts huge holes in the team with Draco meteor, which only Jirachi resists, and goes down to Earthquake, whereas the latter wrecks the team with unresisted coverage between Seed Flare/HP Ice/Earth Power, again hitting most of the team with Super Effective damage.

Solutions
You say you couldn't find any thing else to fill in Jirachi's spot, but I think a Scarf Jirachi will work wonders over your current Jirachi. It can destroy weakened Tyranitar (even full health without babiri berry and flinch hax :P), revenge annoying Dragonite, Flygon, Shaymin with Ice Punch. You may even opt for trick to cripple Stall Teams, or U-turn to scout for Magnezone, and lure out Heatran for Kingdra to set-up on. (I suggest you test U-turn and Trick).

Here's the set:

Jirachi @ Choice Scarf
Jolly - Serene Grace
4 Hp - 252 Atk - 252 Spe
- U-turn/Trick
- Iron Head
- Ice Punch
- Thunder Punch

The reason I put Thunder Punch over fire Punch is simple; lucario doesn't get a chance to st-up on your team, which Fire Punch is for, instead I think offensive water types may be more of a problem so try out Thunder Punch. Besides Lucario looks like its already crippled and taken down by a combination of ThunderWave+Hidden power Fire from celebi

Thats all I got, solid team overall, GL!

Sep 2nd, 2010, 11:31:18 AM	#2
afterburn Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 627 Macedonia	Hey there, solid team you have there, I have a few suggestions to improve it as a whole. Threats DD Tyranitar, DD dragonite, Mixed Flygon (Special+Physical), Life Orb Shaymin How they're threats Tyranitar, although can't directly switch in, can come in on Celebi at -2 Special Attack and do a number to your team with a boost. If its life orb, you can risk staying in and thunderwaving, but if you mispredict and expect it to be a Scarf Tar, then it will at the very least 2HKO all your team members between Crunch/Stone Edge/Earthquake, bar Swampert, who'll surely get prior damage since he's in the lead spot. Dragonite, although it gets a few opportunities to set-up (can take an air-slash from Togekiss), can rip through your team with repeated +1 Dragon Claws and Earthquakes that may be very troublesome to the team. You can try to paralyze it with T-wave (again some carry lum berry to overcome Outrage confusion), but thats about it. Mix Flygon and Life Orb Shaymin outspeed every member of your team, the former puts huge holes in the team with Draco meteor, which only Jirachi resists, and goes down to Earthquake, whereas the latter wrecks the team with unresisted coverage between Seed Flare/HP Ice/Earth Power, again hitting most of the team with Super Effective damage. Solutions You say you couldn't find any thing else to fill in Jirachi's spot, but I think a *Scarf Jirachi* will work wonders over your current Jirachi. It can destroy weakened Tyranitar (even full health without babiri berry and flinch hax :P), revenge annoying Dragonite, Flygon, Shaymin with Ice Punch. You may even opt for trick to cripple Stall Teams, or U-turn to scout for Magnezone, and lure out Heatran for Kingdra to set-up on. (I suggest you test U-turn and Trick). Here's the set: Jirachi @ Choice Scarf Jolly - Serene Grace 4 Hp - 252 Atk - 252 Spe - U-turn/Trick - Iron Head - Ice Punch - Thunder Punch The reason I put Thunder Punch over fire Punch is simple; lucario doesn't get a chance to st-up on your team, which Fire Punch is for, instead I think offensive water types may be more of a problem so try out Thunder Punch. Besides Lucario looks like its already crippled and taken down by a combination of ThunderWave+Hidden power Fire from celebi Thats all I got, solid team overall, GL! Last edited by afterburn; Sep 2nd, 2010 at 11:46:50 AM.