Sep 24th, 2010, 8:22:20 AM   #306
Peterko
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by Fat Mien. Snorlax(460kg) with 256 attack using Heavy bomber on all these pokemon having exact 216 def Torterra(352kg): 40-38-36-36-40 damage Dragonite(210kg): 60-59-54-53-54 damage Mewtwo(122kg): - 81-75-73-76-77 damage Altaria(20kg): 102-104-111-110-106 damage Mew(4kg): 114-111-104-113-108 damage Regarding the weight of each pokemon i suppose these results make a lot more sense. If i made a mistake somewhere or if you need more data for the correct formula don't hesitate to tell me.
assuming your snorlax (460kg)was lv.100, according to my calcs with the DP damage formula, these are the rough base powers

Code:
```vs torterra(352kg)    	BP = 39-42
vs dragonite (210kg)  	BP = 59-63
vs mewtwo(122kg)     	BP = 80-86
vs altaria (20kg)  	BP = 110-120
vs mew (4kg)            BP = 112-122```
max base BP seems to be around 120, considering lax is the heaviest (?) of the pkmn that learn it...

the formula may look something like:
heavy bomber BP = (userīs weight - targetīs weight) x 120 / userīs weight

so,
vs mew = (460 - 4) x 120 / 460 = 118 (tests say 112-122)
vs altaria = (460 - 20) x 120 / 460 = 115 (tests say 110-119)
vs mewtwo = (460 - 122) x 120 / 460 = 89 (tests say 80-85) !
vs dragonite = (460 - 210) x 120 / 460 = 66 (tests say 59-62) !

this formula is wrong

...Iīll try to figure this out lol

EDIT: maybe the description is misleading and itīs just some kind of reverse low kick/grass knot
- does more damage to lighter foes, something like this:

400.1+ kg = 20 BP (you could test against another snorlax)
300.1-400 kg = 40 BP (torterra)
200.1-300 kg = 60 BP (dragonite)
100.1-200 kg = 80 BP (mewtwo)
50.1-100 kg = 100 BP (no test subject)
<=50 kg = 120 BP (altaria & mew)

Mien could you please test the damage around 5-10 times against a gastly or something to get the highest damage possible? Afterwards a few more with Altaria and then against something with 25.1-50 kg and 50.1-100kg so that we have the whole thing

EDIT2: sorry had to fix the calcs a bit, they were slightly off (max BP was off by 1)

Last edited by Peterko; Sep 24th, 2010 at 9:25:45 AM.