[UncleSam]

Originally Posted by Fat polelover44

I'd received many logs of spiffy chatting about the game with players on the IRC channel, it wasn't your log that got him godkilled.

OK um...lets look at your in-thread explanations (I'll amalgamate both yours and vonfiedler's since they are basically the same points...)

Originally Posted by Fat polelover44, in initial aftermath

technically I should have godkilled you the first time you did this. Also, billy's post originally said "Spiffy told me to say this game sucks", which lead me to believe you were on IRC. Billy later PM'd me saying this was false and you never told him anything, he just wanted to piss me off, but
a) I can't take back a godkill
and b) I should have godkilled you earlier.

billy was a non-player. You clearly state that the reason for the godkill was not the earlier IRC logs you refer to in this thread, but rather the post by a non-player about the incident.

Originally Posted by Fat vonfiedler, also in initial aftermath

Spiffy really put us between a rock and a hard place not only by going onto the game chat on IRC after being told not to (being frozen was your warning, it should have been sufficient) and then going on IRC later and talking to people about the game regardless of whether they were playing or not. Which we never would have known about had Spiffy not copy pasted a non-player's words in an attempt to influence a lynch.

I do not feel bad for Spiffy. I feel bad for the teammates he let down. I don't like godkilling players, but my cohost was not as forgiving and he had every right not to be.

Note the bolded part (and the fact that it was vonfiedler who bolded it, not me). No mention of "IRC logs", just "non-player's words in an attempt to influence the lynch", which is exactly what I stated in my original post.

Let's continue, shall we?

Originally Posted by Fat polelover44, after several apparently "influential" players have commented on how retarded the whole thing is

Spiffy, had you been subbed out, your sub in would have been completely screwed over. Basically, everybody would know what he was, except he wouldn't have the beneficial information that helped you avoid being lynched yesterday.

This relates to my second point in my original post in this thread (god this quoting across threads is getting confusing). Basically, your argument is that a sub would have been "screwed over" so we will just award the other team a free kill? So the fuck what if people would have known what he was, how does that mean he is "screwed over", that happens in most subbing cases.

Originally Posted by Fat vonfiedler, directly after polelover44

Which might be a good point if he hadn't used your comment to sway the lynch. That's really all there is to that. That'd be frowned upon even if he wasn't frozen.

This statement, apart from being categorically untrue (again, nothing in your rules about asking for non-players' advice), again posits both that it was the non-player's chat, not these mysterious "IRC logs" which were hardly referenced and never revealed whatsoever that caused the godkill, and that these comments "swayed the lynch", a ridiculous statement for reasons I have already pointed out.

Note that nowhere in the actual thread did either of you say that the reason for Spiffy's godkill was IRC logs with players.

In other words, your comment here is total bullshit and you cannot simply ignore my points by bringing up non sequiturs.