[Seven Deadly Sins]

Originally Posted by Fat smashlloyd20

Couple suggestions here.

I think Charizard should be allowed, Solar Power is pretty huge especially with Drought Ninetales. Whoops, missed that one. Okay.

While Shedinja is sort of odd, it can put a total stop to certain Pokemon. It deserves an analysis. I'll talk it over with people.

Venasaur is on the 'no analysis' list. Oops, fixing.

Sturdy Probobass is pretty cool. Perhaps an analysis there? No thanks, Probopass still has the issue of nonexistent offenses, no speed, and a terrible typing. Besides, giving up Magnet Pull? Psh.

Lastly, suggesting Shuckle. It got a few neat tools this Gen such as Perversity and Power Share, making it harder to break than ever. Perversity does nothing for it, as it has no stat lowering moves for itself and you don't need to lower its stats to kill it, and power share is meh anyway.

Also, once Perversity Jaroda is released it needs an a analysis. Well duh. But that's still a ways off, and I'm not sure how we're handling shitty Pokemon that become amazing through Dream World yet.

Originally Posted by Fat iDunno

The only problem I have with this list is the inclusion of Golduck since it does have the much coveted Cloud Nine which allows it to reliably outspeed and KO many Weather-based threats i.e. Kingdra, Doryuuzu, etc. Golduck isn't really strong enough to actually reliably KO weather-based threats, especially rain ones (have you seen how bulky Kingdra is?), and it's slow enough that it needs Choice Scarf to do it, since it's slower than Doryuuzu and ties with Kingdra (among other things). Besides, it can't really switch into any weather shenanigans, or if it can, it can't do so for long.

EDIT: ALSO: Moltres is amazing this gen with Rapid Spin support and definitely deserves an analysis. Sure, and now that Stealth Rock isn't quite as ubiquitous, it's got more chances to not suck. Removing.