Originally Posted by Fat Woodchuck
If I'm not mistaken, you haven't changed Kingdra's item to Choice Specs. It's still indicated as Life Orb by both the picture and the words.
You don't seem to have that much of a problem with Kingdra as most tend to fire off Hydro Pump randomly which is an easy Sub/SD for Croagunk.
I don't see why your own Kingdra has both Hydro Pump and Surf. Perhaps replace one with a coverage move?
As for entry hazards, I've found Skarmory to work remarkably well in Rain. It counters Dory, Randorosu, and Terakion, Hippowdon can't touch it, and, in the rain, Fire Blast from Tyranitar won't be doing much.
Perhaps it is worth a try over Breloom? The main problem being Skarmory doesn't have much of a place on such an offensive team.
What you mentioned is really my only problem with Skarmory on this team. The fact that he just doesn't fit that well on Offensive teams is a big problem for me. Coverage moves on Kingdra aren't necessary, because all that's needed
is Water/Dragon coverage to smack everything around. Throwing around Surf in the Rain with Choice Specs (fixed that, by the way, thanks for bringing that up) is like tossing out a Draco Meteor without the negative side-effects.
Originally Posted by Fat elDino
Hey Forte, nice team you've got here and congratulations on the ranking you achieved! I especially like how you used Ludicolo, I just did the analysis on him and by testing him extensively I found out how awesome he is :P
Its really hard to find a problem with this team as you have most of your bases covered and as long as you keep your Politoed alive, people are gonna have one hell of a time trying to beat this team. One problem that you do have is against Rock Polish users, primarily Terakion and Randorosu. They can Rock Polish up against your Genosekuto and then proceed to sweep through most of your team. You only have Breloom to take down Terakion and no real counter at all for Randorosu. As listed before, I think that a Skarmory would do well in stopping these threats but it wouldn't fit anywhere really... One pokémon that could fit in your team is Manaphy. The bulky CM set would work well as it would provide some much needed bulk on the team whilst also countering the above pokemon. Something like this would work well:
Manaphy @ Leftovers
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
This thing gives you away to take down stall as well whilst also acting as a backup Doryuuzu check (it can survive a +2 Earthquake). It easily counters Randorosu and Terakion and it keeps the rain theme of the team. I feel that it could fit over Breloom as it still counters Doryuuzu anyways.
Once again good job on the leaderboard achievement and kudos for using Ludicolo over some other rain sweeper.
Thanks for compliments. I'll try out bulky Calm Mind Manaphy over Breloom, so I hope it can rise to the occasion. Tail Glow Manaphy was just a bit too frail (even with those 100/100/100 defenses) sometimes. I haven't really been having too many problems with Rock Polish Pokemon, but I can see how they would be a problem.
Originally Posted by Fat MajorGambit
I have something to point out: what does this moveset on Kingdra accomplishes? I can understand DM along with Dragon Pulse. But 4 moveslots with 2 types of attack?
Why don't you run mixxed Kingdra with Outrage / Waterfall | Draco Meteor | Dragon Pulse | Surf / Hydro Pump?
At least try to attack on the other side of the spectrum. I think you're wasting Kingdra's big potention with this set.
Finally, you're kind of rude with the suggestion of another Rain Dance mon. Politoed WILL go down many times. I use a SS team and my first concern is to get Drizzletoad down for my weather to reign. Having another Rain Dance may save your match. Since Kingdra is kinda of wasting a moveslot, you could give him Rain Dance. Or even to Ludicolo, since Focus Blast rarely pays off the shaky accurancy.
Anyway, think about that. Your team is very well-built. GL with it.
Mixed Kingdra is, in my opinion, the worst Kingdra set for this team. I don't have any problems with Stall that I'd need something like a Mixed Attacker. As I said above, two types are all Kingdra needs. It's resisted by a giant number of three Pokemon, neither of which are even common in this meta-game.
Rain Dance isn't needed at all though, and I thought it was fairly obvious why
it wasn't needed. I'm not going to be sending in Politoed every little chance I get. I've faced you personally numerous times on the ladder, against your Sun team, and I've yet to lose because I played my Politoed at the wrong time. Worst come to absolute worst, in a one-on-one match, Kingdra can take a +0 Earthquake and OHKO with Surf, if at around 90% of its HP.
Focus Blast has paid off a lot more than you think. Being able to 2HKO Nattorei, one of the few problem Pokemon for this team? I much prefer that over a move that I might
use maybe once out of every ten battles.