Originally Posted by Fat trickroom
+1 Judgment can't OHKO. If you are using CM, then I don't think it is a wall.
It is a Bulky Sweeper then! Also this is assuming you come in on Groudon. Since a wall is coming in on a sweeper, Arceus has to come in on Groudon. Steel Arceus couldn't do that.
Steel Arceus is really bulky but I don't think it works well as a wall, more like a bulky booster.
Ah, then thanks for clearing up the misconception. But I still think that one of (maybe the most) important criteria for grading an Ubers wall (not named Blissey or Chansey) is its ability to survive a +2 Extreme Killer ES and cripple the opposing Arceus. I suppose Multi-Scale Lugia can do that rather simply and just Dragon Tail the Arceus out, but it won't like Shadow Force. Ghost/Steel Arceus would also check it pretty well, I suppose.