Originally Posted by Fat thunderstone
Just because darmanitan is better doesn't make victini a bad pokemon :/
That's what I say about Pidove, but see how that goes.
I ditched mine at level 32. I couldn't stand it anymore. Base stats mean nothing when you can't do anything decent.
So it learns grass knot? For all it's worth, there's almost no water types to use it on, the roggenrolla family just stomps you with rock moves after sturdy kicks in, and as for the ground types... meh, it hardly hits for any power vs sandiles.
And if I want to spam normal attacks, my Unfezant does that much better.
You can't learn it any Psychic STAB pre E4, it's very limited in it's fire STAB. and apart from that you have headbutt and quick attack ¬¬
It's a great pokemon past lv 49. It's not before.
Originally Posted by Fat Its_A_Random
EDIT: After reading more, Victini isn't as bad as I thought. If you do plan to use Victini in game, there is a diverse number of TM's you can use right away, like Grass Knot, Retaliate, etc. Don't rely on the Level Up moves that much, teach him some TM's, but yeah, I think Darumaka is better still.
And if we're going with that, I'm going straight back to Pidove for mid tier. Don't rely on it's level up moves, learn it return and fly!