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Ashenlock · Mar 27th, 2011, 5:38:11 PM

I've seen and am using a team based around lowering the opponent's stats and then sweeping with a single, stat-upped pokemon. These teams get pretty easily taken down if they don't have Roar or Whirlwind if the opponent puts down a substitute. So I felt it would be important for users of this strategy to be aware of the pokemon in the line who use Substitute and what else they know:

210 | Charizard | Adamant | Salac Berry | Dragon Claw | Flame Charge | Belly Drum | Substitute | HP/Spd/SpD
225 | Marowak | Careful | Salac Berry | Substitute | Detect | Earthquake | Swords Dance | HP/SpD
266 | Tauros | Naughty | Liechi Berry | Earthquake | Rock Slide | Endure | Substitute | Atk/Spd
271 | Scrafty | Naughty | Liechi Berry | Fake Out | Bulk Up | Focus Punch | Substitute | HP/Atk
387 | Meganium | Bold | Chesto Berry | GrassWhistle | Double Team | Substitute | Rest | HP/Def
407 | Breloom | Jolly | Toxic Orb | Substitute | Seed Bomb | Wake-Up Slap | Spore | Atk/Spd
429 | Lopunny | Jolly | Liechi Berry | Charm | Focus Punch | Substitute | ThunderPunch | Atk/Spd
452 | Toxicroak | Modest | Petaya Berry | Focus Blast | Sludge Bomb | Substitute | Protect | Spd/SpA
507 | Yanmega | Modest | Sitrus Berry | Psychic | Bug Buzz | Swagger | Substitute | HP/SpA
520 | Leafeon | Naive | Liechi Berry | Leaf Blade | Giga Impact | Substitute | Yawn | Atk/Spd
571 | Serperior | Calm | BrightPowder | Leaf Storm | Substitute | Hyper Beam | Toxic | HP/Def/SpD
621 | Scrafty | Adamant | Muscle Band | Substitute | Payback | Hi Jump Kick | Focus Punch | HP/Atk
646 | Poliwrath | Adamant | Leftovers | Waterfall | Focus Punch | Encore | Substitute | HP/Atk
665 | Shuckle | Relaxed | Lax Incense | Gyro Ball | Double Team | Substitute | Power Trick | HP/Def
734 | Venusaur | Bold | Black Sludge | Leech Seed | Substitute | Sludge Bomb | Protect | HP/SpD
735 | Charizard | Adamant | Salac Berry | Belly Drum | Substitute | Fire Punch | Earthquake | HP/Atk/Spd
739 | Feraligatr | Adamant | Liechi Berry | Dragon Dance | Waterfall | Crunch | Substitute | Atk/Spd
745 | Empoleon | Calm | Petaya Berry | Surf | Substitute | Blizzard | Whirlpool | HP/SpA
747 | Emboar | Timid | Salac Berry | Substitute | Flamethrower | Focus Blast | Scald | Spd/SpA
749 | Dugtrio | Jolly | BrightPowder | Toxic | Dig | Substitute | Sandstorm | Atk/Spd
757 | Breloom | Careful | Toxic Orb | Protect | Leech Seed | Substitute | Focus Punch | HP/Def/SpD
760 | Absol | Jolly | BrightPowder | Substitute | Swagger | Punishment | Will-O-Wisp | Atk/Spd
790 | Kangaskhan | Jolly | Salac Berry | Fake Out | Endeavor | Return | Substitute | Atk/Spd
792 | Spiritomb | Careful | Custap Berry | Will-O-Wisp | Sucker Punch | Substitute | Pain Split | HP/SpD
800 | Miltank | Jolly | Salac Berry | Substitute | Earthquake | Rock Slide | Zen Headbutt | Atk/Spd
803 | Gothitelle | Modest | BrightPowder | Substitute | Flatter | Psych Up | Psychic | HP/SpA
851 | Mandibuzz | Careful | Leftovers | Substitute | Swagger | Punishment | Roost | HP/Def/SpD
941 | Tornadus | Modest | Leftovers | Substitute | Double Team | Focus Blast | Hurricane | HP/SpA
958 | Cobalion | Jolly | Lax Incense | Swagger | Substitute | Psych Up | Iron Head | Atk/Spd
986 | Cresselia | Bold | BrightPowder | Psychic | Substitute | Toxic | Trick Room | HP/SpD

Some things to note:
-You don't face any Substitute users until #210 Charizard, so there aren't any of them in the normal line or in the Super line until fight #15.
-Charizard and Scrafty have more than one set with Substitute.

I'll edit in more later if it proves to be useful.

(Thanks to Team Rocket Elite for the list)

Mar 27th, 2011, 5:38:11 PM	#18
Ashenlock Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 954 Drinking more Coca-Cola than all the polar bears combined.	I've seen and am using a team based around lowering the opponent's stats and then sweeping with a single, stat-upped pokemon. These teams get pretty easily taken down if they don't have Roar or Whirlwind if the opponent puts down a substitute. So I felt it would be important for users of this strategy to be aware of the pokemon in the line who use Substitute and what else they know: 210 \| Charizard \| Adamant \| Salac Berry \| Dragon Claw \| Flame Charge \| Belly Drum \| Substitute \| HP/Spd/SpD 225 \| Marowak \| Careful \| Salac Berry \| Substitute \| Detect \| Earthquake \| Swords Dance \| HP/SpD 266 \| Tauros \| Naughty \| Liechi Berry \| Earthquake \| Rock Slide \| Endure \| Substitute \| Atk/Spd 271 \| Scrafty \| Naughty \| Liechi Berry \| Fake Out \| Bulk Up \| Focus Punch \| Substitute \| HP/Atk 387 \| Meganium \| Bold \| Chesto Berry \| GrassWhistle \| Double Team \| Substitute \| Rest \| HP/Def 407 \| Breloom \| Jolly \| Toxic Orb \| Substitute \| Seed Bomb \| Wake-Up Slap \| Spore \| Atk/Spd 429 \| Lopunny \| Jolly \| Liechi Berry \| Charm \| Focus Punch \| Substitute \| ThunderPunch \| Atk/Spd 452 \| Toxicroak \| Modest \| Petaya Berry \| Focus Blast \| Sludge Bomb \| Substitute \| Protect \| Spd/SpA 507 \| Yanmega \| Modest \| Sitrus Berry \| Psychic \| Bug Buzz \| Swagger \| Substitute \| HP/SpA 520 \| Leafeon \| Naive \| Liechi Berry \| Leaf Blade \| Giga Impact \| Substitute \| Yawn \| Atk/Spd 571 \| Serperior \| Calm \| BrightPowder \| Leaf Storm \| Substitute \| Hyper Beam \| Toxic \| HP/Def/SpD 621 \| Scrafty \| Adamant \| Muscle Band \| Substitute \| Payback \| Hi Jump Kick \| Focus Punch \| HP/Atk 646 \| Poliwrath \| Adamant \| Leftovers \| Waterfall \| Focus Punch \| Encore \| Substitute \| HP/Atk 665 \| Shuckle \| Relaxed \| Lax Incense \| Gyro Ball \| Double Team \| Substitute \| Power Trick \| HP/Def 734 \| Venusaur \| Bold \| Black Sludge \| Leech Seed \| Substitute \| Sludge Bomb \| Protect \| HP/SpD 735 \| Charizard \| Adamant \| Salac Berry \| Belly Drum \| Substitute \| Fire Punch \| Earthquake \| HP/Atk/Spd 739 \| Feraligatr \| Adamant \| Liechi Berry \| Dragon Dance \| Waterfall \| Crunch \| Substitute \| Atk/Spd 745 \| Empoleon \| Calm \| Petaya Berry \| Surf \| Substitute \| Blizzard \| Whirlpool \| HP/SpA 747 \| Emboar \| Timid \| Salac Berry \| Substitute \| Flamethrower \| Focus Blast \| Scald \| Spd/SpA 749 \| Dugtrio \| Jolly \| BrightPowder \| Toxic \| Dig \| Substitute \| Sandstorm \| Atk/Spd 757 \| Breloom \| Careful \| Toxic Orb \| Protect \| Leech Seed \| Substitute \| Focus Punch \| HP/Def/SpD 760 \| Absol \| Jolly \| BrightPowder \| Substitute \| Swagger \| Punishment \| Will-O-Wisp \| Atk/Spd 790 \| Kangaskhan \| Jolly \| Salac Berry \| Fake Out \| Endeavor \| Return \| Substitute \| Atk/Spd 792 \| Spiritomb \| Careful \| Custap Berry \| Will-O-Wisp \| Sucker Punch \| Substitute \| Pain Split \| HP/SpD 800 \| Miltank \| Jolly \| Salac Berry \| Substitute \| Earthquake \| Rock Slide \| Zen Headbutt \| Atk/Spd 803 \| Gothitelle \| Modest \| BrightPowder \| Substitute \| Flatter \| Psych Up \| Psychic \| HP/SpA 851 \| Mandibuzz \| Careful \| Leftovers \| Substitute \| Swagger \| Punishment \| Roost \| HP/Def/SpD 941 \| Tornadus \| Modest \| Leftovers \| Substitute \| Double Team \| Focus Blast \| Hurricane \| HP/SpA 958 \| Cobalion \| Jolly \| Lax Incense \| Swagger \| Substitute \| Psych Up \| Iron Head \| Atk/Spd 986 \| Cresselia \| Bold \| BrightPowder \| Psychic \| Substitute \| Toxic \| Trick Room \| HP/SpD Some things to note: -You don't face any Substitute users until #210 Charizard, so there aren't any of them in the normal line or in the Super line until fight #15. -Charizard and Scrafty have more than one set with Substitute. I'll edit in more later if it proves to be useful. (Thanks to Team Rocket Elite for the list) __________________ 441 D/Cs and counting, baby! The Jerk Store* <- For reference only Contrary to popular belief, this is not a compendium of people who disconnect on Wi-Fi. See: Seinfeld*, "The Comeback."