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Originally Posted by Fat Rising_Dusk
Disallow Switcheroo, Trick
I don't like these moves. They distract CAP1 away from running bulky or utility sets and lure it into running Choice-locked sets that switch away their Choice item. CAP1 literally has no utility to be gained from picking up these moves, while they will distract from the concept if included in the movepool. I don't want to see Choice Specs Switcheroo CAP1.
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There are other things that can be tricked/switcherooed. Tricking a Lagging Tail makes a ton of sense and gives great team support. It would make almost any sweeper useless. That being said, you can only trick a Lagging Tail onto one pokemon, and you run the risk of receiving something bad if they predict the trick, like a flame orb (however, yes you could then trick the flame orb onto something else). Or tricking a Rotom-A (well not Rotom-S I guess) an Iron Ball so you can kill with EQ. Trick and Switcheroo just make sense to me in many ways other than simply the typical choice items.
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Originally Posted by Fat Rising_Dusk
Allow Ingrain
This is very cool with Baton Pass. Priority IngrainPass ahoy! That said, it has major downfalls for CAP1, namely the loss of the Flying-type Ground-immunity and the inability to switch right out of the opponent. This matters if something faster with Prankster comes in and Taunts you. Thundurus, Whimsicott, and Tornadus can all do this and put you in your place and checkmate CAP1. I think it's a fair trade and that Ingrain should be allowed.
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IngrainPass with Priority will make Baton Pass way too viable in my opinion. Especially if any speed boosing moves, even Tailwind, are included.
Example: Tomohawk comes in on a Conkeldurr. Uses Ingrain on the switch to a counter, lets say.... Tornadus. Baton Pass the Ingrain to something that doesn't mind Tornadus like a Zapdos. Tornadus is threatened out by the TBolt, so he switches to his Gastrodon/Quagsire/Swampert as you Agility. Baton Pass to your Vaporeon as he uses an Ice or Water move. Acid Armor then Baton Pass into a 252 HP 252 Speed Timid Reuniclus.
This Reuniclus would be at 424 HP, 308 Defense, and 348 Speed. Calm Mind and Recover your way up to +6 and sweep with Psychic and HP Fighting.