Originally Posted by Fat zdrup15
iirc only with CB and after the first V-create Victini is outsped and severely damaged by Outrage so it shouldn't go for the 2HKO
well it obviously SHOULDN'T go for the 2hko but the idea of having a resist that wont be crippled by v-create isn't extremely valid because of that. i don't know how to exactly word what im trying to say... so i think its ok.
also i think heatran should get a really big mention as a sun counter, because i've been running a sun team lately, and he is literally the biggest counter i have found. he reists practically everything on common chlorophyll sweepers, and once sleep clause is activated, he is extremely hard to take down. earthquake doesn't even work most of the time due to the balloon that he always uses now.