[Fireburn]

Originally Posted by Fat shrang

Celebi @ Leftovers / Life Orb
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Nature: Timid
- Nasty Plot
- Giga Drain / Grass Knot
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power Ice

Not exactly creative, I know, but it serves it purpose pretty well. It can't really sweep without removing its checks (which are numerous), but it performs pretty well for a reasonably bulky Pokemon that could potentially set up and sweep. At least it doesn't have that nasty Electric weakness that Manaphy o_0 (Although having five extra weaknesses doesn't help it, lol).

Maybe try Baton Pass? I could see Dialga and Arceus making decent recipients.



Shaymin @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 80 Def / 176 Spe
Nature: Bold
- Seed Flare
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Hidden Power Ice / Earth Power

Another "Groudon check". I used this for a while after realising how weak my sand team was to Excadrill. Shaymin is naturally quite bulky, and with Leech Seed, it can piss off the opponent quite a bit. Here's something Grass Arceus can't do =P.

Aside from checking Excadrill (I don't really know what your team is though...), Shaymin-S does the whole SubSeeding thing much better. :/

@NTT That lead Deoxys is pretty interesting, I might give it a whirl sometime.