Uhm +1 Grass Arceus Ice Beam to my Lugia 37.5% - 44.2% This isn't even a 2HKO, and might not 2HKO even after Stealth Rock. My Lugia has Toxic which will kill Arceus in the end. Once poisoned, Grass Arceus is easy to take down. That said, I tried Toxic Dialga before and it worked OK. However, I think Toxic Lugia is enough to keep Grass Arceus in check for now.
That's no SpA EVs Grass Arceus which is the standard one. I already have Toxic on Lugia and Gastrodon. I have used Toxic Dialga before but I like Dialga's phazing prowess. I could use Toxic Dialga but I like something to phaze pass Substitutes. Lugia is using Dragon Tail so I have to keep Roar in.
Without Roar, Sub Hone Claws Zekrom or even Ho-Oh can annoy me a lot. I might try Toxic on Ferrothorn over Gyro Ball since Ferrothorn can afford to drop that attack. Gyro Ball is mainly to do some damage anyway and not utter Taunt bait. Toxic Ferrothorn stops Grass Arceus cold.
Thanks for the rate though. I will mention more about Grass Arceus in the RMT, because it's a large ass to face for rain teams. It's time for more rain teams, Reshiram is now dying out due to the popularity of Kyogre. Drown All fire-types!
<&GreatSage> if nothing else it's a "trickroom teaches pokemon" thread
<&GreatSage> which is reason enough to keep it
<@Colonel_M> I once heard Jibaku considered Scarf Gyarados for his Ubers team
<syrim> Trickroom the ultimate synguuest
Last edited by trickroom; May 30th, 2011 at 9:03:49 AM.