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Wue · May 31st, 2011, 2:46:05 AM

I'm going to try a different team for doubles for fun. Main word being 'fun'. It's just something I built that I'm pretty confident no else has yet. If you want to bash it just PM me. Otherwise, some help putting this team together would be nice.

Snorlax @ Normal Gem/Focus Sash
?????? nature
Thick Fat
252 HP / ??? on the rest
-Self-destruct
-Crunch
-Earthquake
-?????

Should be straightforward. Main purpose is to Self-destruct right away. EQ and Crunch offer good coverage on anything that can take Self-Destruct. Partner can take care of the rest if need be. Max HP to have a better chance of getting Self-Destruct off but I don't know about the rest. I don't really know what to put in the last slot. Can't decide between Normal Gem or Focus Sash. Can't find a decent calculator so if someone can point me to one or something that would be great.

Gengar @ Life Orb
Timid
Levitate
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 HP
-Shadow Ball
-HP Ice
-Giga Drain/Thunderbolt
-Focus Blast/Psychic

Perfect partner for Snorlax. Immune to both EQ and Self-Destruct. Shadow Ball helps get rid of ghosts + it's STAB. Giga Drain and HP Ice for the very useful x4 that I frequently face in Subway. Might replace Giga Drain with Thunderbolt. Don't know if I should keep Focus Blast for normals/darks/steels or Psychic to get rid of fighting types that could put my Snorlax in danger. Depends what Snorlax runs.

Accelgor @ Bug Gem
Modest
Unburden
252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe
-Bug Buzz
-Final Gambit
-Giga Drain
-HP coverage? / ????

With 364 HP it has 185th highest HP. I don't know how many of those 185 show up in Subway (haven't check yet) but it should definitely be able to KO a good amount. Bug Gem STAB'd Bug Buzz to kill psychics/darks (or dent most Pokemon for that matter) that could potentially kill Gengar, Giga Drain for bulky waters. I don't know any other item that would fit this set. Don't know what to put for HP coverage. Ghost's will pose problems for this set. Unburden to outspeed pretty much everything and his other 2 abilities aren't useful on this set anyways.

Staraptor @ Choice Scarf
Jolly
Reckless
252 HP / 252 Spe / 4 Atk
-Brave Bird
-Final Gambit
-Close Combat
-?????

Another Final Gambit user. With Choice Scarf it can pretty much outspeed everything. A reckless STAB'd Brave Bird helps kill off fighting types that could kill my Snorlax and Ghosts that are immune to Final Gambit and Close Combat for dark/normal/steel types that pose problems for Gengar or pretty much hit anything that doesn't resist it really hard. It's HP is ranked at 140 and as with before this is including Pokemon that don't show up in the subway. Don't really know what to put in the last slot.

Again, I didn't run calculators for these so I'm not too sure of it's effectiveness. I can already see tons of weaknesses for this team (Trick Room, Hail/Sandstorm, entry hazards, priority, Focus Sash/Sturdy/Endure, Detect/Protect). Should be fun to try though.

May 31st, 2011, 2:46:05 AM	#183
Wue Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 5	I'm going to try a different team for doubles for fun. Main word being 'fun'. It's just something I built that I'm pretty confident no else has yet. If you want to bash it just PM me. Otherwise, some help putting this team together would be nice. Snorlax @ Normal Gem/Focus Sash ?????? nature Thick Fat 252 HP / ??? on the rest -Self-destruct -Crunch -Earthquake -????? Should be straightforward. Main purpose is to Self-destruct right away. EQ and Crunch offer good coverage on anything that can take Self-Destruct. Partner can take care of the rest if need be. Max HP to have a better chance of getting Self-Destruct off but I don't know about the rest. I don't really know what to put in the last slot. Can't decide between Normal Gem or Focus Sash. Can't find a decent calculator so if someone can point me to one or something that would be great. Gengar @ Life Orb Timid Levitate 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 HP -Shadow Ball -HP Ice -Giga Drain/Thunderbolt -Focus Blast/Psychic Perfect partner for Snorlax. Immune to both EQ and Self-Destruct. Shadow Ball helps get rid of ghosts + it's STAB. Giga Drain and HP Ice for the very useful x4 that I frequently face in Subway. Might replace Giga Drain with Thunderbolt. Don't know if I should keep Focus Blast for normals/darks/steels or Psychic to get rid of fighting types that could put my Snorlax in danger. Depends what Snorlax runs. Accelgor @ Bug Gem Modest Unburden 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe -Bug Buzz -Final Gambit -Giga Drain -HP coverage? / ???? With 364 HP it has 185th highest HP. I don't know how many of those 185 show up in Subway (haven't check yet) but it should definitely be able to KO a good amount. Bug Gem STAB'd Bug Buzz to kill psychics/darks (or dent most Pokemon for that matter) that could potentially kill Gengar, Giga Drain for bulky waters. I don't know any other item that would fit this set. Don't know what to put for HP coverage. Ghost's will pose problems for this set. Unburden to outspeed pretty much everything and his other 2 abilities aren't useful on this set anyways. Staraptor @ Choice Scarf Jolly Reckless 252 HP / 252 Spe / 4 Atk -Brave Bird -Final Gambit -Close Combat -????? Another Final Gambit user. With Choice Scarf it can pretty much outspeed everything. A reckless STAB'd Brave Bird helps kill off fighting types that could kill my Snorlax and Ghosts that are immune to Final Gambit and Close Combat for dark/normal/steel types that pose problems for Gengar or pretty much hit anything that doesn't resist it really hard. It's HP is ranked at 140 and as with before this is including Pokemon that don't show up in the subway. Don't really know what to put in the last slot. Again, I didn't run calculators for these so I'm not too sure of it's effectiveness. I can already see tons of weaknesses for this team (Trick Room, Hail/Sandstorm, entry hazards, priority, Focus Sash/Sturdy/Endure, Detect/Protect). Should be fun to try though. Last edited by Wue; May 31st, 2011 at 6:54:31 AM.