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Old Jun 2nd, 2011, 3:30:02 PM   #191
NoCheese
 
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Regarding Crimson's quality Gyarados, Ferrothorn, Garchomp team:

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Originally Posted by Fat Crimson View Post

Overall, I love this team. The only thing I would change would be to find an Ice resist. That's the only thing that gives this team trouble, strong Ice moves since neither Gyara nor Ferro resists and Garchomp bites the dust against them. Any suggestions?
After seeing your success, Crimson, I am trying to use life orb Scizor in place of Ferrothorn, as it provides the ice resist you are looking for and covers the weaknesses of Garchomp and Gyarados pretty well. Unfortunate that it lacks Ferrothorn's electric resistance, but I'm not too worried about that thanks to Chomp's immunity.

I'm torn between using a swords dance Garchomp or going with my old standby choice band. So many things seem to go wrong when I try to set up a chomp, and even though being locked into Outrage can be dangerous, choice band Garchomp just OHKOs so many things. But the big advantage of dance Chomp is that I can run that focus sash, letting me (usually) get one hit off even on faster threatening pokemon, hopefully at least putting them in Scizor's priority revenge kill range even if Chomp doesn't OHKO.

Also, I am interested in understanding your 156 HP / 72 Atk / 96 Def / 184 Spe EV spread for your Gyarados. Since I am breeding mine, and won't have perfect IV's, understanding where I can afford to fudge, and whether I can get away with a boilerplate max attack and speed alternative, will be very helpful. For the speed, for example, you note that Gyarados outruns everything after two boosts, and I see that it outpaces threatening electric pokes Zebstrika 2,3, and 4 after 1 boost. But there are some other relevant pokes you could outrun after zero or one boost with max speed, so I would love to hear your logic on how the gains in Defense and HP make up for less than max speed (and attack, for that matter).

Great team!
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