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Neotornado · Jun 22nd, 2011, 4:06:38 PM

Say, I've been trying to use an unconventional team (IE, no one in the top 15 pokemon) on the subway, and this seemed like my best bet. however, it didn't even clear 30, any hints on how I can improve this team?

Ambipom w/focus sash
Adamant ~ Technician
Evs 252Spe/252Atk/4HP
-Double hit
-fake out
-aerial ace
-low sweep
Standard stuff for ambipom. aerial ace and low sweep take advantage of technician's boost, while retaining their great secondary effects. (aerial ace never missing, and low sweep's speed decrease) fake out is a base 90 BP move that causes the opponent to flinch, and also gives me a gauge on whether double hit will OHKO or not, seeing as each hit does slightly less than the fake out did. even if it dosen't OHKO, I do have the speed to get a second hit on.

Sigilyph w/Life orb
Timid ~ Magic guard
Evs 252Spe/252SpA/4HP
-Psychic
-Air slash
-Ice beam
-Energy ball
Standard magic guard abuser. It's moveset is pretty wide, but I do find myself walled by a couple of things (steels, mainly) I was thinking of replacing ice beam with charge beam, but I'm not 100% sure of it.

Jolteon w/air balloon
Timid ~ Volt absorb
Evs 252Spe/252SpA/4HP
-thunderbolt
-Shadow ball
-Signal beam
-Wish
The only eeveelution I could really work into this. (vaporeon and espeon are nice, but neither one really translates well into the battle subway...) my only real regret with this one is that wish is 100% wasted. but at the same time I kinda can't bear to let it go. mostly because jolteon has a terrible movepool. the air balloon HAS won me battles. one example was being against a steelix who's only attacking move was earthquake.

That's about it. I think my record was 24 wins. any hints on how I can improve this?

Jun 22nd, 2011, 4:06:38 PM	#241
Neotornado Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 60	Say, I've been trying to use an unconventional team (IE, no one in the top 15 pokemon) on the subway, and this seemed like my best bet. however, it didn't even clear 30, any hints on how I can improve this team? Ambipom w/focus sash Adamant ~ Technician Evs 252Spe/252Atk/4HP -Double hit -fake out -aerial ace -low sweep Standard stuff for ambipom. aerial ace and low sweep take advantage of technician's boost, while retaining their great secondary effects. (aerial ace never missing, and low sweep's speed decrease) fake out is a base 90 BP move that causes the opponent to flinch, and also gives me a gauge on whether double hit will OHKO or not, seeing as each hit does slightly less than the fake out did. even if it dosen't OHKO, I do have the speed to get a second hit on. Sigilyph w/Life orb Timid ~ Magic guard Evs 252Spe/252SpA/4HP -Psychic -Air slash -Ice beam -Energy ball Standard magic guard abuser. It's moveset is pretty wide, but I do find myself walled by a couple of things (steels, mainly) I was thinking of replacing ice beam with charge beam, but I'm not 100% sure of it. Jolteon w/air balloon Timid ~ Volt absorb Evs 252Spe/252SpA/4HP -thunderbolt -Shadow ball -Signal beam -Wish The only eeveelution I could really work into this. (vaporeon and espeon are nice, but neither one really translates well into the battle subway...) my only real regret with this one is that wish is 100% wasted. but at the same time I kinda can't bear to let it go. mostly because jolteon has a terrible movepool. the air balloon HAS won me battles. one example was being against a steelix who's only attacking move was earthquake. That's about it. I think my record was 24 wins. any hints on how I can improve this? __________________ What I tell everyone: Hi! I'm new here, and I joined smogon to help my team improve! what I'm really saying: heya. I'm an idiot, and I invaded smogon to spread crappy ideas! the truth? probably somewhere in the middle. while I honestly am trying to improve, expect some utter crap as a bi-product.