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Originally Posted by Fat calze6

Stone all is a better title since stone can be a verb :) How does extremekiller arceus get walled by a giratina without wow or roar!? Surely you need it to have the wall set. It seems a waste of a pokemon by sacking a wall and then still struggle to beat arceus. Willowisp on arceus can also help too. You may want SE on ttar as I see that ho-oh can give this team a headache if it subs on your drill.

Yeah, you're right. My original plan was to Dragon Pulse Arceus down to low enough health so Excadrill can come in and revenge kill it, but it would kind of fail if the Arceus user just uses SD again if they see that I have no WoW. I'll slash Will-O-Wisp next to Sleep Talk, since Giratina doesn't always need it anyway, and WoW can cripple things like opposing Tyranitar. As for Stone Edge on Tyranitar, I have no idea what I want to get rid of for it. I just hate Gliscor TOO much to not have Ice Beam on it.

Thanks for the rate, Rock can be used as a verb too (You know, rock as in rock music and "rocking"). =D

Originally Posted by Fat Tobes

I like this team a lot, but I do need to note the weakness to CM Fighting Arceus. Once Ho-oh is dead you don't have much that can reliably check it. Definitely use Roar on Grassceus (who the fuck even uses SD Ray anymore? 9.9) so that you have one more option for dealing with it. I'd also suggest Roar / Dragon Tail over CM on Giratina but I've never seen CM Restalk in action so I'm not too good of a judge on what it does for you.

Yeah, Fighting Arceus is an annoying piece of shit, as it always is for Sand teams. There really isn't much I can do about it if Ho-Oh dies without completely dismantling the team, though. I have tried many, many options o_0. Thanks for the rate.