Sorry I haven't gotten back to you. I feel obligated to post because, well, you really helped a lot.
I certainly agree that the LO set is superior, and with it, I am much more capable of breaking down the stall teams that I hate so much.
For Kyogre, I gave it a Specially Defensive set and replaced Roar with Toxic. With it, Choice Scarf Palkia only 3HKOs me with Thunder, and I'm not helpless against Lugia. On the other hand, Groudon's Thunder Wave is, imo, invaluable, and while I'd love to add SR to it's moveset, I don't really want to sacrifice the speed drop and paraflinch combo with Shaymin-S that T-Wave gives me.
Speaking of Shaymin-S, it only outspeeds RP Groudon with Timid, so I'd like to keep that so I'm not destroyed by it. Also, the Smogon set for Scarf Skymin, IIRC, recommends Modest, and with Timid, I outspeed them.
Thanks a lot for the rate! It helped me a lot.
[22:11] Helias: FUCK YOU HAWKSTAR THAT'S NOT MY NAME