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Chinese Dood · Jul 10th, 2011, 3:31:23 AM

You can try going with Modest and have Abomasnow Icy Wind for Nidoking while it protects maybe (snow will need sash and that's still not secure though)...

Otherwise, you can have Nidoking + a tailwind Lead, Protect + Tailwind first turn, Lead switch to Abomasnow + Nidoking Blizzard or whatever 2nd turn... but heh... that's getting complicated and requires a bit more support even.

Another thing you can try is... instead of Blizzard, try Sludge Wave, which has perfect accuracy and STAB (so it's 142 base power, which is even better than Blizzard's), but the catch is that it hits everyone in the field, so best to pair it with a Steel type for immunity. Skarmory can Tailwind and has sturdy (so no sash needed, so can use lum probably)...

I thought about using the Sludgewave one before, but ... never got around to trying it and... sounds a bit iffy too.

EDIT: Obviously Sludge wave doesn't have as good coverage with steel immunity too... I suppose that's why it's most likely carrying earthpower and flamethrower....

Jul 10th, 2011, 3:31:23 AM	#318
Chinese Dood Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,053	You can try going with Modest and have Abomasnow Icy Wind for Nidoking while it protects maybe (snow will need sash and that's still not secure though)... Otherwise, you can have Nidoking + a tailwind Lead, Protect + Tailwind first turn, Lead switch to Abomasnow + Nidoking Blizzard or whatever 2nd turn... but heh... that's getting complicated and requires a bit more support even. Another thing you can try is... instead of Blizzard, try Sludge Wave, which has perfect accuracy and STAB (so it's 142 base power, which is even better than Blizzard's), but the catch is that it hits everyone in the field, so best to pair it with a Steel type for immunity. Skarmory can Tailwind and has sturdy (so no sash needed, so can use lum probably)... I thought about using the Sludgewave one before, but ... never got around to trying it and... sounds a bit iffy too. EDIT: Obviously Sludge wave doesn't have as good coverage with steel immunity too... I suppose that's why it's most likely carrying earthpower and flamethrower.... Last edited by Chinese Dood; Jul 10th, 2011 at 3:50:00 AM.