Originally Posted by Fat trickroom
Why will Kyogre hesitate to come in on Ho-Oh? Fireburn overestimated Ho-OH :P Kyogre can easily come in on Sacred Fire, and bulky Kyogre always survives Sacred Fire + Brave Bird damage and KO back with Surf.
Victini dies to any hazard on the field, getting owned by Kyogre isn't fun either who happens to be the most common Pokemon. That's why you rarely even see one Victini.
Kingdra also gets it butt kick by Groudon, and MOST Arceus formes. All of the common Arceus forms can survive one boosted hit and OHKO back after SR and LO. Normal Arceus can even roll over Kingdra with Extremespeed. Groudon owns Kingdra too, especially Specially Defensive ones, and sun wrecks Kingdra in general. This is the reason you won't see any Kingdra in Ubers.
Why is Salamence here and the SalaQuaza combo is extinct long ago. Three users made the Salamence analysis, wrote it then removed it telling Salamence sucks. Even Rayquaza is rather uncommon now, why will you even use Salamence? All-out-offense sucks now because Wob is getting his ass kicked by the nerf and Arceus can single handedly 6-0 most offensive teams likely consisting of Deoxys-S, Rayquaza, Salamence, Scizor, Wob and Darkrai or Mewtwo.1
Offensive Kyogre can't switch in on Ho-Oh because of Brave Bird and bulkier sets are outsped and 2HKOed. Its not like its going to always use Sacred Fire blindly everytime it comes in.
Victini is uncommon simply because it really isn't that popular, not because of Kyogre. I mean, stuff like Heatran is good but its still uncommon. :X
Groudon doesn't like coming in repeatedly on Kingdra because it hates taking LO Draco Meteors to the face, and Mixed/Special Kingdra is probably better than DD Kingdra anyway. I doubt Arceus is gonna want to take an LO Hydro Pump in the rain to the face.
Wobbuffet is still useful to remove Scarfers.
I'm not totally sure why you made this post. :X