Originally Posted by Fat Raikaria
OK, saying that a pokemon within the Top 10 dosen't show up anymore shows how much of an idiot you are.
Saying that Wish is the only advantage that Salamence has over Dragonite is outright moronic. Especially when Wishmence is never used anyway. Intimidate works even if Mence switches into to Stealth Rock. Not to mention he has 100 Base Speed, and 110 Sp.Atk. Mence still runs Mixed sets better than Dragonite, or any OU Dragon-type for that matter.
95/80/80 is hardly what you call frail too. Mence is usually seen as frail due to SR + LO + Sand... which applies to Dragonite too.
And switching either Dragonite or Mence into something with an Ice attack is stupid. Ice attacks are actually rarer in this generation than last, because of Rain, even more Water types. Not to mention Tyranitar loving the free switch in, same with Scizor, Rotom-W, and Ferrothorn.
Both Multi-Scale and Intimidate are situational. However, Intimidate cannot be rendered useless by your foes actions as easily, they have to predict Mence, and switch in a Special Atacker. Multi-Scale just needs them to either attack on the switch, use Will-O/Toxic, or set up Rocks to prevent. Not difficult.
Hell, Taunt screws Multi-Scale over.
We're throwing around insults now? That's cool.
Your original post pretty much confirmed your mouth is firmly wrapped around Salamence's nuts. You ever stop to wonder why Dragonite gets used more over Salamence? Yes, many people are just doing it because of the usage, but how did that high usage come about? There had to be start. You want to start pointing fingers at the chart then fine, why is your beloved Salamence in such a low position? Are you saying that many battlers are dumb for using Dragonite over Salamence? They each have their own advantages, but Dragonites are just overall better.
I haven't seen much of either one in awhile. Even when I do, they are easy to take down.
I've run a Lum Berry DDnite with ExtremeSpeed/Fire Punch/Dragon Claw as a suicide lead. Easily gets 1-2 DD up then proceed to punch holes in the other team. Unless they have a perfect anti Dragonite core to switch around with or a really good counter, their team will be severely weakened by the time Dragonite falls.