Sep 22nd, 2011, 11:09:22 PM
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#19
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Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 119
Philippines
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Originally Posted by Fat Seth Vilo
Although I have no experience with Substitute, I have found many opportunities where Taunt is extremely useful, namely against Ferrothorn, Skarmory, Forretress, Blissey/Chansey, and a bunch of other set-up or stall type threats. If you predict well it can also help if you run across a random Baton Pass team.
Another thing you could do that I've been experimenting with is to make it so your Gliscor becomes a SD Toxicroak counter as well. How, you ask? Change the EV's to 244 HP / 88 Def / 176 Spe. While this cuts out a whopping 25 Defense points, that extra speed bumps you up to 270 Speed, outrunning Adamant, 252 Spe Toxicroak by one point, and letting you Earthquake it back to its lily pad. So long as you're in good health and the frog hasn't already set up a Swords Dance, you can even switch into an Ice Punch (taking 62.5% - 73.8%), and nail the unsuspecting frog next turn as it tries to finish you off thinking it's faster. It's worked well for my team so far; I just need to not depend solely on Gliscor to take all forms of physical hits now, but have security against that rising-in-popularity frog. Hope I helped!
EDIT:
Shoot. In typing this this morning, I forgot SD Toxicroak carries Life Orb. This means a +0 Ice Punch does 80.7% - 95.5%. Still not a OHKO, but now it requires you to be in a lot better health before switching in on said Ice Punch. However, not many people will fire off said Ice Punch, instead going straight for the boost while they can on a switch, so not much worry there.
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Well, Seth, maybe I could run Gliscor with xx HP / xx Defense / 216 Speed to outrun Lucario and others, while retaining Gliscor's defensive capabilities. Is it viable, or it would violate Gliscor's defensive prowess?
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