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Old Sep 28th, 2011, 12:19:09 AM   #21
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Er, sorry for the late reply
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I won't exactly call them (Haxorus, Dragonite, Salamence, Latias) unstoppable if given a chance to set up since they are still forced to switch moves each turn.
"Nigh unstoppable"
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And seriously, how much do you think they will get in 3 turns? +2, +2? Granted Mence and Nite will be able to sweep with that, but they would take like what, 12 turns (Skarm essentially has 2 turns to Roost so unless OHKO) to be able to KO Skarm, which by then, they would fall to Sandstorm.
That makes no sense. What's stopping them from boosting any further if Skarmory insists on staying in? Moreover, how does Torment really help Skarmory in that situation? It prevents said Pokemon from using their STAB for a turn, granted, but there's nothing preventing them from boosting to the point where even Skarmory won't be able to take a hit.

To make this a bit more clear: Without an offensive option or Whirlwind, Skarmory will have to switch out and risk one of its teammates if something with a stat boosting move switches in.
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Mono-attackers like Latias has a even lower chance of muscling though Skarm due to Torment+Protect.
Latias has Roar .-.
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Torment Tran has a Gen V analysis despite Special Stat-uppers (Volcarona, Latias, Virizion, etc.) which are equally as threatening so why not?
Because Heatran can stall them to no end and actually ward off physical attackers
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