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**Molk** · Oct 22nd, 2011, 5:55:39 PM

You know, i had an idea for zwelious, a scarf set.
[SET]
name: Scarf Zwelious
move1: Outrage
move2: Crunch
move3: Fire fang
move4: Dragon tail
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Hustle
Nature: jolly
evs: 4hp / 252atk / 252spe

now you may be thinking, what makes this different from the band set? Well, jolly and with a scarf it reaches 354 speed, enough to outspeed base 111's This gives it a whole new range of pokemon it can beat that it couldnt before and allows it to act as a revenge killer as well. Now you may be thinking, its not adamant, it wont hit hard enough! wrong, Jolly zwelious actually has a very high chance to 2hko standard mandibuzz even without Stealth rock, Jolly zwelious's crunch does 75-90% to slowking and it 2hkoes physically defensive ferroseed with fire fang. even with the lack of defensive evs it can still switch into resisted attacks and start spamming outrage. I havent played with it much, but from what i have seen it is relativelt successful. Imo at least this deserves OO.

Edit: just saw it is now in OO I guess it is still QC's desicion on whether its viable though.

Oh about gurdurr's evs, Gurdurr with eviolite actually takes hits better than conkeldurr with the same ev spread for example sceptile's giga drain

120/136 conkeldurr 33.07% - 38.85%
120/ 136 Gurdurr w/ eviolite 29.03% - 34.31%

so i suggest that gurdurr's ev spread gets changed to standard conk's ev spread, if conk can live through OU with that spread where attacks are more powerful, so can gurdurr and gurdurr definatley needs the power more.

Oct 22nd, 2011, 5:55:39 PM	#3
Molk Recipe for disaster Moderator Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,237 Long Island	You know, i had an idea for zwelious, a scarf set. [SET] name: Scarf Zwelious move1: Outrage move2: Crunch move3: Fire fang move4: Dragon tail item: Choice Scarf ability: Hustle Nature: jolly evs: 4hp / 252atk / 252spe now you may be thinking, what makes this different from the band set? Well, jolly and with a scarf it reaches 354 speed, enough to outspeed base 111's This gives it a whole new range of pokemon it can beat that it couldnt before and allows it to act as a revenge killer as well. Now you may be thinking, its not adamant, it wont hit hard enough! wrong, Jolly zwelious actually has a very high chance to 2hko standard mandibuzz even without Stealth rock, Jolly zwelious's crunch does 75-90% to slowking and it 2hkoes physically defensive ferroseed with fire fang. even with the lack of defensive evs it can still switch into resisted attacks and start spamming outrage. I havent played with it much, but from what i have seen it is relativelt successful. Imo at least this deserves OO. Edit: just saw it is now in OO I guess it is still QC's desicion on whether its viable though. Oh about gurdurr's evs, Gurdurr with eviolite actually takes hits better than conkeldurr with the same ev spread for example sceptile's giga drain 120/136 conkeldurr 33.07% - 38.85% 120/ 136 Gurdurr w/ eviolite 29.03% - 34.31% so i suggest that gurdurr's ev spread gets changed to standard conk's ev spread, if conk can live through OU with that spread where attacks are more powerful, so can gurdurr and gurdurr definatley needs the power more. __________________ 16:46 <TLCNU> Esca literally is 2HKO'd by Stoutland Fire Fang 10:33 skylight molk put me in your sig Last edited by Molk; Oct 24th, 2011 at 3:13:35 PM.