[waterwarrior]

I agree with Pocket, I loves me the HO. And Ubers is the best tier for it, as there really is very little middle ground for an Ubers poke, it's either offensive, defensive, or never seen, the only exceptions being Dialga, Giratina-O, and Manaphy. I think CB/ SubClaws Zekrom and Double Dance Groudon should be added due to their gigantic ripping power against practically everything. And I believe ExtremeSpeed should be slashed with HP Fire on Deo-s, Ferro without Gyro Ball is already turned into Spikes fodder, and it's always nice to get a hit on Arceus/Rayquaza/Deo-A before they take you out. EDIT: Overheat/ Fire Blast is also another slash to put over EQ on Arceus. Sure it's old fashioned, but its the only way of getting around Skarm and beating Ferro without recoil, which is incredibly important If you're running LO, and it helps you a lot if it's a Rocky Helmet Ferro (increasingly popular for some odd reason).

EDIT EDIT: woah woah woah. Sure, Cloyster's good in Ubers and all, but you seriously over-estimate it. Mewtwo isn't particularly bulky, but it takes Cloyster. It's the same for any other poke not weak to Ice in the tier. EKiller Arceus is a much better poke to define HO with.